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My friend that I spoke to said that the 1050 won't run off of the power supply unit and instead would run off of the motherboard alone. Is that correct? If it is, would it still not work because the card says 300 watts and the power supply is only 180?

As Rusty stated previously, your other hardware components will also use power from the power supply so even if the video card only uses 75 watts, that only leaves 180 - 75 = 105 watts left to run everything else.

The manufacturers of video cards say a minimum wattage amount is needed for a reason so since the NVIDIA GTX 1050 recommends using a 300 watt power supply, using anything less than that can either damage the power supply or cause erratic behavior on the system because the power supply may not be able to handle the increased power load being put on the unit.

Therefore, you can upgrade to that video card at your own risk but if it was me, I would not waste money or time trying to upgrade that system as it wasn't designed with upgradeability in mind.

That being said, as far as the graphics card that is already in there... How is it getting enough power?

Well that power supply can barely run the card even though the AMD Radeon RX 360 requires a 400 watt power supply. But keep in mind that the video card you have is an OEM version which means its clocked lower than the custom versions of that same card and because your CPU is a low power chip which means that both your video card and your CPU are using a lot less power than a regular desktop CPU would use and the video card being an OEM version is also using less power than a custom version of that same card would use.
 
I don't get how the thread is related... As far as the desktop we are talking about... How is the graphics card, that is in there, drawing enough power especially if the min wattage for said card is apparently 420 watts...
It explains the difference of the power being drawn between an integrated graphics and a dedicated card...
 
It explains the difference of the power being drawn between an integrated graphics and a dedicated card...
So does this mean that the card will drain power from the motherboard at 75 watts with a 180 watt psu?
 
So does this mean that the card will drain power from the motherboard at 75 watts with a 180 watt psu?
The integrated graphics are designed to consume less power and produce less heat...this is the reason it has limits... A dedicated card design is what you can afford and if your pc is up to spec's to run the that card without bottle necking..meaning that the cpu can't process fast enough of the data it is receiving..


At this point we are beating a dead horse here...You simply do not enough wattage with your current psu..for what you are wanting you will need at least a 300/320 watt psu...these are facts and no way to get around this... Now if you want to proceed with your upgrade please do...but we here ,have gave you what we know and upgrading that type pc is a waste of time..
 
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The PC you have is very limited in its ability and VERY moderately specced, would suggest not spending any more money on it, but save up and buy something more suitable to gaming..
 
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I get all of that but this computer is very confusing... There is already a graphics card in it... an AMD Radeon R9 360 - 2GB WHICH if you look at the minimum wattage requirements for it, it says it needs a PSU with a minimum of 450 watts... That being said, how is this computer running it if the PSU is only 180?
 
I already answered your above question:

That being said, how is this computer running it if the PSU is only 180?

Well that power supply can barely run the card even though the AMD Radeon RX 360 requires a 400 watt power supply. But keep in mind that the video card you have is an OEM version which means its clocked lower than the custom versions of that same card and because your CPU is a low power chip which means that both your video card and your CPU are using a lot less power than a regular desktop CPU would use and the video card being an OEM version is also using less power than a custom version of that same card would use.

That power supply is already struggling to run that video card so putting in any video card that is faster than the AMD Radeon RX 360 is going to further strain the power supply even more which could cause damage to both the power supply or the new video card. You are taking a risk by installing a video card that uses more power than the one that is already in the system. If you accept the risk of this then by all means go ahead and install a faster video card but just know that your current computer was not designed for upgrading the CPU, motherboard, or power supply.
 
I already answered your above question:





That power supply is already struggling to run that video card so putting in any video card that is faster than the AMD Radeon RX 360 is going to further strain the power supply even more which could cause damage to both the power supply or the new video card. You are taking a risk by installing a video card that uses more power than the one that is already in the system. If you accept the risk of this then by all means go ahead and install a faster video card but just know that your current computer was not designed for upgrading the CPU, motherboard, or power supply.
So if a GTX 1050 Ti SC 4GB like the one I linked is a more consuming card than the r9 360?
 
Do some research HERE

The picture you posted earlier shows a pretty low level who knows what model card, not a r9 360.
Unless the dxdiag command in windows 10 gives out false information, its an AMD Radeon R9 360 - 2GB... As far as the research, I posted a same link like that one... ( http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=3785&gid2=2950&compare=Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti EVGA SC Gaming 4GB-vs-AMD Radeon R9 360 (OEM) ) the link I just posted shows everything in the link you did except it also shows the minimum PSU wattage and the max power it draws... that being said, it says that the 360 pulls 85 watts and the 1050 ti sc pulls 75 watts... Is that true?

If it is, would my build be technically ok with the 1050 cause it draws less power?

Cheers


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Under the circumstances of this computer, I thought it appropriate to add these...

http://imgur.com/a/rUDMz
(DXDIAG - Display)
http://imgur.com/a/9TcH9
(DXDIAG - System)
 
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If you know for certain that the OEM version of the AMD RX 360 only draws 85 watts and the version of the NVIDIA GTX 1050 draws only 75 watts then it should work ok but again this is not an ideal upgrade and you may run into issues particular with the power supplies stability in the future but if you are determined to upgrade the video card then feel free to go ahead with the upgrade but don't say we didn't warn you.
 
If you know for certain that the OEM version of the AMD RX 360 only draws 85 watts and the version of the NVIDIA GTX 1050 draws only 75 watts then it should work ok but again this is not an ideal upgrade and you may run into issues particular with the power supplies stability in the future but if you are determined to upgrade the video card then feel free to go ahead with the upgrade but don't say we didn't warn you.
I get that there are warnings and everything to this... That being said though, I did some searching and supposedly the AMD Radeon R9 360 *?is a rebranded version of the AMD Radeon R7 360?*?!* If that is true then should I be looking at the specs for the R7 or the R9 since they are supposedly the same thing? Also is that statement true, that it is the same just rebranded?

Cheers and thank you all so much for everything so far, you guys are the best!

- Luke
 
Honestly I don't go by the R7 or R9 stuff. I look at the actual model which is the AMD Radeon RX 360. Just make a decision on what you want to do at this point and move forward with that choice. You've heard all of us staff members including me give their input on what you should do so the only one who can resolve this query is you.
 
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