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  • Dan
    PCHF Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 41

    #16
    Originally posted by vger
    LOl…sounds like a good build..

    So how shall we mark this thread? If you are finished that is..
    Erm could you leave it open please? “Houston, we have a problem!”

    I have noticed that my display is a bit sluggish. I’ve tried changing the resolution, refresh rates. Even changed settings on my tv, hrd mode off etc. Its a new samsung 4k uhd smart tv 40" tv that I just recently got. It was fine with my previous machine.

    Now I think it could be down 2 reasons, the first thing I noticed is that the driver for intel 630 doesn’t work on windows 7 x64 even though intel has one for it which I tried. When I try to install it then it brought up an error “This computer does not meet the minimum system requirements” , which was really strange. I tried it a couple times but the result was the same. So I went and checked intel website again and can see there is an * next to windows7/8 so I scrolled down and seen the list and it only went upto model 620, mine wasnt listed. “D’oh!”

    So the driver that I did manage to install and get working was through the MSI Live update app which listed it as a BETA driver. So its possible it could be a driver issue.

    I also came across another post elsewhere during my search where someone mentioned that a new kaby lake system wont run well in windows 7 and you have to install windows 10. He also said that there is no graphics driver for the intel 630 for windows 7.

    I’m guessing I may need to ditch windows 7 and give windows 10 a try?

    Im struggling to find what else it could be. I’ve even been into the bios and tried to tweak settings, give the gpu more system memory by another 500mb but that didnt do nothing. It feels like its holding my system back. Even watching videos, typing , browsing its just not smooth. I dont know how best to describe it. My system boots up fast and everything is working fine but the display is kinda slow, sluggish. Like theres a heavy layer.

    Also a couple times my firefox browser has crashed whilst I was just browsing no downloads just checking videos on my facebook and searching for things on google, and both times it happened out of nowhere the screen would start to kind scramble then if I moved the mouse then it go away but then it would sometimes back again within a few seconds. Was very wierd. Buggy graphics driver perhaps?

    I havent overclocked or tuned anything on my system. Everything is at default. I changed the graphics system memory back to default.

    Any advice or help would be most appreciated

    Thanks

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    • veeg
      PCHF Director
      • Jul 2016
      • 8977

      #17
      OK..

      Check out this link and scroll to the bottom. http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentiu...7PG3000F).html

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      • Dan
        PCHF Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 41

        #18
        Originally posted by vger
        OK..

        Check out this link and scroll to the bottom. http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium_4/Intel-Pentium 4 630 3.0 GHz - JM80547PG0802MM - HH80547PG0802MM (BX80547PG3000F).html
        I’m sorry but I don’t see what I’m looking for here? I see that there are benchmark results? Even looked at the comments.

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        • veeg
          PCHF Director
          • Jul 2016
          • 8977

          #19
          In the comments a few suggested fixes were posted .

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          • Dan
            PCHF Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 41

            #20
            Originally posted by vger
            In the comments a few suggested fixes were posted .
            I’ve had a look again my man but I don’t see any fixes or suggestions. All I see in the comments is discussion of intel processors and the 64bit aspect of them , running hot in windows 7 etc.

            I dont see anything mention of a fix for anything, nothing mentioned about the integrated graphics either. Sorry if I’ve missed it and annoying you but I have checked it again just puzzled now.

            I am just considering installing windows 10 to give it a chance. Where can I download the genuine windows 10? I would like to to try it out, I assume we get a 30 day trial? If it works better and solves my problem then I will just buy a genuine key to activate it if I decide to keep it.

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            • veeg
              PCHF Director
              • Jul 2016
              • 8977

              #21
              Ok i don’t see what graphic card you are using. On the 4k requirements… Max… http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...on-on-your-pc/

              Min: https://gopro.com/support/articles/m...g-and-playback

              If you wish to try Win 10.. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acce....ZZAbqXqugw)()

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              • Dan
                PCHF Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 41

                #22
                Originally posted by vger
                Ok i don’t see what graphic card you are using. On the 4k requirements… Max… http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...on-on-your-pc/

                Min: https://gopro.com/support/articles/m...g-and-playback

                If you wish to try Win 10.. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acce....ZZAbqXqugw)()
                Im using the integrated graphics card, which is the HD Intel 630 series.
                Thanks for the link on windows 10, I’ve actually managed to download it from microsoft the full iso and have now converted to usb bootable. Will give that a go.

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                • Dan
                  PCHF Member
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 41

                  #23
                  Okay so I have installed windows 10 pro last night, everything is running much better even my graphics card. I now have the proper driver installed, no beta version. Running much better. Although I will have to still invest in a good graphics card to enjoy my bluray films with higher settings but at least for now things are fine.
                  I even managed to install all the MSI utilities for my motherboard without them crashing during installation.

                  I’m actually kinda liking windows 10, Ive got it all set the way I had my windows 7 and its looking the same apart from some new features. I still have quite a bit to explore and check things out on windows 10. Ive just been busy setting it up last night. I even bought myself a genuine activation code, there is a good deal on! Was £4.79 and got the code straight away.

                  Added a link below for some photos of my new machine

                  Thanks for all the help, much appreciated.

                  [MEDIA=imgur]a/ErvFu[/MEDIA]
                  [MEDIA=imgur]a/ErvFu[/MEDIA]

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                  • veeg
                    PCHF Director
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 8977

                    #24
                    Good to hear..

                    If you are interested… https://pchelpforum.net/resources/ho...windows-7.107/

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                    • Dan
                      PCHF Member
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 41

                      #25
                      Originally posted by vger
                      Good to hear..

                      If you are interested… https://pchelpforum.net/resources/ho...windows-7.107/
                      Thank you for that! I can always try that later if I feel the need. I did take a look and one thing got me curious, it mentions installing K-lite codec pack. Now this is what I always use and I have installed it on windows 10 but have found its not running as smooth as I like, I’m blaming my graphics card but could it be because of some windows 10 settings that are interfering? I have set the settings back to default for codecs on it but still not quite there as I can see a slight judder in between here and there.

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                      • veeg
                        PCHF Director
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 8977

                        #26
                        Could be the integrated grahpics and or Win 10. I would think in IMHO it is the graphics.

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                        • Dan
                          PCHF Member
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 41

                          #27
                          Originally posted by vger
                          Could be the integrated grahpics and or Win 10. I would think in IMHO it is the graphics.
                          I agree with you, thats what I believe it is as well. I noticed it on windows 7 too but then again the performance of the integrated graphics was poor and I had the same issue when playing back any video file, prob a little worst than windows 10.
                          Well I will find out soon once I get myself a new graphics card, I’m thinking of grabbing a gtx1050ti or gtx 1050, prob go for a 4gb version.

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                          • veeg
                            PCHF Director
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 8977

                            #28
                            What wattage is your psu?

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                            • Dan
                              PCHF Member
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 41

                              #29
                              Originally posted by vger
                              What wattage is your psu?
                              Ive got an EVGA Suprnova G2 750W Gold

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                              • veeg
                                PCHF Director
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 8977

                                #30
                                Ok yeah that should do it..

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