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  • Ciocolici
    PCHF Member
    • Feb 2018
    • 53

    #1

    Random freezing

    Hello!

    Some weeks ago Iโ€™ve bought some fans and a new 4TB HDD for my PC. Since my MOBO has only 1 PWR_Fan and 2 SYS_Fan places, I had to use 1 Y adapter to be able to put install all the fans (4 in total), and because of the HDD, I had to use an extension cable for my DVDRW.

    After I did these things, some days later my pc started freezing randomly nearly everyday. Freezing like really freezing. Randomly. While browsing the internet, moving my cursor around, or even having nothing opened and just clicking on the desktop. Would happen once or twice a day. The screen, the sound, the mouse, the keyboard, everything freezes, but I still could open and close the DVDRW. Tried looking for a crash report or anything like that, but windows does not let anything behind since it has no time to do so because of the freeze.

    Anyway, I started taking out one by one every change I did to the PC that day, since that day this stupid thing started. Interesting to note is that until yesterday, it only once froze playing a video game. First I took out the DVDRW because I used an extension cable to it. Still freezing. Then took out one of the fans and the Y cable with it. For 2 days I had no freezes, but then it started again, for the first time I got a freeze while playing a video game. I took out the last thing, the 4TB HDD, but then browsed the internet for 20 minutes, then freeze. And now I completely reinstalled my Windows, thinking maybe thereโ€™s an issue from there. But, to my surprize, it froze while preparing the files for installing the windows (after the reboot). So, maybe the issue is not from Windows?

    I gotta say the freeze is no longer once a day, but like once one or two days. But I have no idea what is causing it, since it happens randomly. Iโ€™m all out of ideasโ€ฆ I thank you all in advance!

    SPEC:

    CPU: AMD FX 8350 Black Edition
    CPU Cooler: NOCTUA NH-U12S
    Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-970-Gaming
    RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE (x2 4GB)
    Storage: INTENSO (120GB SSD intern)
    SAMSUNG HD250HJ (250GB HDD intern)
    SEAGATE Barracuda (1TB HDD intern)
    SEAGATE Barracude (4TB HDD intern) (the new HDD that I just took out)
    Graphics Card: PALIT GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 3GB
    PSU: SEASONIC M12II Bronze EVO 520W
    Optical Device: TSSTCORP CDDVDW TS-H653B (the DVDRW I took out)
    OS: MICROSOFT Windows 10 Pro
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8977

    #2
    Hello

    Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.
    @Evan Omo

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    • jmarket
      PCHF Owner
      • Jan 2015
      • 7636

      #3
      Hi there @Ciocolici and welcome to PCHF

      Sorry about the delay. Have you gotten any BSOD or errors?

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      • Evan_Omo
        PCHF Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 1257

        #4
        Hi Ciocolici, Welcome to PCHF!

        Did you try updating your computerโ€™s BIOS to the latest version? Are you overclocking any components? Have you tried removing all extra internal hard drives to see if the system still freezes with only your system drive installed?

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        • veeg
          PCHF Director
          • Jul 2016
          • 8977

          #5
          Any updates for us?

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          • Ciocolici
            PCHF Member
            • Feb 2018
            • 53

            #6
            Originally posted by jmarket
            Have you gotten any BSOD or errors?
            No BSOD, no errors, other than the sudden random freezes.
            Originally posted by Evan Omo
            Did you try updating your computerโ€™s BIOS to the latest version? Are you overclocking any components? Have you tried removing all extra internal hard drives to see if the system still freezes with only your system drive installed?
            The BIOS is updated to the last version, no overclocking, and removing all the HDDs from my pc means I got nothing to do using it (without them in it). And since the freezes are random, it takes sometime up to 3 or 4 days until the next freeze comes. I donโ€™t know if this is a good way to test, since it means I gotta use the PC 1 week without the HDDs, doing what?
            Originally posted by vger
            Any updates for us?
            Sorry for the late update. The freezes are still there, I get like one once 2-4 days. I disabled Windows Updates to test it maybe that can be the cause, but it makes no difference. The only 2 possibilities are (imo): 1. one of my hard-drives has issues 2. an windows update did something. Other than those 2 I have no clue. I gotta guess the first one is the one, but I did test all my HDDs with different softwares from the internet, none showing any errors. Is there a way to do 100% sure test the HDDs for problems?

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            • veeg
              PCHF Director
              • Jul 2016
              • 8977

              #7
              Thanks for the update..

              @Evan Omo jmarket

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              • jmarket
                PCHF Owner
                • Jan 2015
                • 7636

                #8
                Hi there @Ciocolici

                I use Crystal Disk Info for testing my HDs. Itโ€™s very easy, free, and gives very in-depth information about your HD/SSD.

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                • Ciocolici
                  PCHF Member
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 53

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jmarket
                  I use Crystal Disk Info for testing my HDs. Itโ€™s very easy, free, and gives very in-depth information about your HD/SSD.
                  Easy? I have no idea what am I doing. xD Downloaded the standard version, after installing I choosed the HDD and pressed ALL, and it did its thing quite fast. This is what came. I donโ€™t understand a thing from it.


                  [HEADING=1]CrystalDiskMark 6.0.0 x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo
                  Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/[/HEADING]
                  • MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
                  • KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

                    Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 171.756 MB/s
                    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 172.225 MB/s
                    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 0.851 MB/s [ 207.8 IOPS]
                    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 1.012 MB/s [ 247.1 IOPS]
                    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 0.853 MB/s [ 208.3 IOPS]
                    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 0.957 MB/s [ 233.6 IOPS]
                    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 0.325 MB/s [ 79.3 IOPS]
                    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 1.012 MB/s [ 247.1 IOPS]

                    Test : 1024 MiB [F: 47.4% (1766.7/3726.0 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
                    Date : 2018/03/01 11:21:31
                    OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 16299] (x64)

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                  • Malnutrition
                    PCHF Moderator
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7041

                    #10
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                    • Malnutrition
                      PCHF Moderator
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7041

                      #11
                      Also, lets run an in depth HDD scan with Hdd tune.

                      Download HD Tune and save the file.
                      Install HD Tune and restart it after installation.
                      Then go to the tab Error Scan , select the hard drive you want to check and press Start .
                      The check can be quite time consuming take depends on the size of the hard drive check.
                      Take a screen shot of the result and save it.
                      Upload it to IMGUR for us. Post the link here.

                      Do Not tick the quick scan!!

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                      • Malnutrition
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7041

                        #12
                        Might also be a good idea to Reseat ALL of your componentsโ€ฆ Chances are, something got knocked loose when you added hardwareโ€ฆ

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                        • Ciocolici
                          PCHF Member
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 53

                          #13
                          Iโ€™ll be doing this reseat tomorrow.

                          Edit: Done.

                          Edit 2: Just got the first freeze since I did the scans and the reseats.

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                          • Malnutrition
                            PCHF Moderator
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7041

                            #14
                            Sorry for the delay, I am having a look over the logs now.

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                            • Malnutrition
                              PCHF Moderator
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7041

                              #15
                              Hijack This Fix.

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                              O4 - HKCU..\Run: [EADM] F:\Program Files (x86)\Origin\Origin.exe -AutoStart
                              O4 - HKCU..\Run: [EPLTarget\P0000000000000000] C:\Windows\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\E_YATIPFE. EXE /EPT โ€œEPLTarget\P0000000000000000โ€ /M โ€œXP-235 Seriesโ€
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