Booted it several times into Linux no problem when I got home. Changed Boot setting to SSD and it restarted exiting the BIOS and booted into Widnows. Wife and I gamed for a while and I turned it off then attempted to reboot. Didn't boot.
Solved Windows 10 doesn't boot or freezes (been working on this for a while...)
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Does look like a problem with the boot drive atm.
Try changing to Secure boot as opposed to Legacy/CSM.
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Try changing to Secure boot as opposed to Legacy/CSM.
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Turned CSM off and it booted right back into the BIOS. It doesn't detect any of my drives in this mode. Switched CSM back on and it found my drives again and booted into Windows. Also, first boot this morning was again a failure - sat for 10 seconds, booted. I'm gonna go ahead and move my OS over to my spare HDD and see if that cures my Issue. It's a WD Blue 500GB HDD.
And on the edit thing, refer to post #20 in this thread. I know you're posting in multiple threads because you're a super awesome guy for helping a bunch of PC dummies, so I know it could be something that you could easily forget
. For some reason the site won't allow me to edit a post that is more than 5 minutes old.
And on the edit thing, refer to post #20 in this thread. I know you're posting in multiple threads because you're a super awesome guy for helping a bunch of PC dummies, so I know it could be something that you could easily forget
. For some reason the site won't allow me to edit a post that is more than 5 minutes old.
Okay, I got home today and tried to boot it, it didn't boot. Turned it off and tried to boot again, it booted into the BIOS. No drives detected. Checked all settings, they looked correct. CSM on. Restored defaults anyway and exited. Booted back into the BIOS again. Tried turning CSM off for grins. Booted back into BIOS. Restored defaults. Attached the Linux USB to a 2.0 on the back of the case and tried booting again hoping I'd see it in the boot order. Booted back into BIOS. No USB. Turned it off and disconnected power. Let it sit for 30 minutes. Connected power. Turned it on and it booted into Windows.
I hate this computer lol.
I hate this computer lol.
So... I know you dislike it when I make multiple posts, and I apologize that the site won't let me edit posts.. but the computer is exhibiting some new interesting symptoms.
After it booted into Windows in the last post, I let it sit idle for an hour or so.
I then restarted it three times successfully then powered it down.
I let it sit off for about 15 minutes then attempted to power it on
It booted into the the splash screen for the GPU then into the splash screen for the MOBO then the screen went black for about 5 seconds, then it went back to the splash screen for the GPU then to the MOBO then five seconds of black and repeated this course of events four more times until I finally hit F2 to get into the BIOS.
In the BIOS it recognizes the drives, but it won't boot into Windows.
Attached my Linux USB and changed boot order.
Boots into Linux.
Restart and change boot order to boot off of the HDD and left the Linux USB in.
Repeats above issue.
Switch HDD for SSD.
Boot > GPU Splash > MOBO Splash > "No operating system. Try disconnecting all drives that don't have an operating system"
Power down.
Disconnect drives except SSD. Boot. Repeats same issue as HDD.
Tried moving the boot drive to a different SATA port I haven't ever used. Same story.
Power down and disconnect power.
Wondered if this could be the actual install of Windows since it boots into Linux.
Made an ISO for Windows 10 on USB.
Attempted to EFI install Windows 10 from USB onto yet another Good HDD I have laying around.
Began to install Windows 10.
Process was fine until I had to restart it for the installation - Wouldn't boot after that.
Tried hooking up SSD. No boot.
Remove Power.
Time for bed because... it's 12:30 AM here and I have to get up for work at 6AM...
I'm so fed up with this computer lol. I'm feeling pretty confident that this is the motherboard. Just keeps getting worse.
Please tell me it's the motherboard... lol
After it booted into Windows in the last post, I let it sit idle for an hour or so.
I then restarted it three times successfully then powered it down.
I let it sit off for about 15 minutes then attempted to power it on
It booted into the the splash screen for the GPU then into the splash screen for the MOBO then the screen went black for about 5 seconds, then it went back to the splash screen for the GPU then to the MOBO then five seconds of black and repeated this course of events four more times until I finally hit F2 to get into the BIOS.
In the BIOS it recognizes the drives, but it won't boot into Windows.
Attached my Linux USB and changed boot order.
Boots into Linux.
Restart and change boot order to boot off of the HDD and left the Linux USB in.
Repeats above issue.
Switch HDD for SSD.
Boot > GPU Splash > MOBO Splash > "No operating system. Try disconnecting all drives that don't have an operating system"
Power down.
Disconnect drives except SSD. Boot. Repeats same issue as HDD.
Tried moving the boot drive to a different SATA port I haven't ever used. Same story.
Power down and disconnect power.
Wondered if this could be the actual install of Windows since it boots into Linux.
Made an ISO for Windows 10 on USB.
Attempted to EFI install Windows 10 from USB onto yet another Good HDD I have laying around.
Began to install Windows 10.
Process was fine until I had to restart it for the installation - Wouldn't boot after that.
Tried hooking up SSD. No boot.
Remove Power.
Time for bed because... it's 12:30 AM here and I have to get up for work at 6AM...
I'm so fed up with this computer lol. I'm feeling pretty confident that this is the motherboard. Just keeps getting worse.
Please tell me it's the motherboard... lol
You must have read my mind as I was about to ask if the OS on the SSD was installed in Legacy or UEFI mode.
Yep, I forgot that you could not edit your posts for whatever reason, I unfortunately so often have to ask folk to not multi post and/or quote every reply that its become second nature for me.
My original install of Windows was through USB as well, but I never did anything to the boot order to make it either UEFI or USB boot from the ISO.
All I did originally was put the rig together and start it up with my ISO USB in a 2.0 port. Installed Windows and went from there.
I cannot get this computer to boot from any drives now. It will only boot from the Linux USB and that only after I've disconnected power for a while. If I go to restart from Linux and just boot back into Linux again, it won't boot at all like my original issue. Made sure all cables and plugs are in there good because I know that can sometimes cause things to go wacky like this..
All I did originally was put the rig together and start it up with my ISO USB in a 2.0 port. Installed Windows and went from there.
I cannot get this computer to boot from any drives now. It will only boot from the Linux USB and that only after I've disconnected power for a while. If I go to restart from Linux and just boot back into Linux again, it won't boot at all like my original issue. Made sure all cables and plugs are in there good because I know that can sometimes cause things to go wacky like this..
They show up on the desktop, but I've never tried to access them.
I know you're reluctant to recommend a part replacement as there hasn't been any solid proof, but with all things considered does it seem like it most likely would be the motherboard?
I'm looking into getting another 970 MOBO today, and I'll breadboard with it later tonight since my tower is a micro ATX and the other board is ATX
I know you're reluctant to recommend a part replacement as there hasn't been any solid proof, but with all things considered does it seem like it most likely would be the motherboard?
I'm looking into getting another 970 MOBO today, and I'll breadboard with it later tonight since my tower is a micro ATX and the other board is ATX
The fact that the both storage devices show up on the desktop in Linux is a good sign but even better if you can access the data on them.
Entirely up to yourself of course with any testing or purchasing but the latter is always a last resort with me.
Get back to us regarding accessing the drives in Linux and we will go from there, no point in me waffling on atm.
Entirely up to yourself of course with any testing or purchasing but the latter is always a last resort with me.
Get back to us regarding accessing the drives in Linux and we will go from there, no point in me waffling on atm.
Had my wife Facetime me and help out. Had her connect power then put the Linux USB in a 2.0 on the back and boot. It booted and II can access the drives in Linux. Restarted once and it booted back into Linux. Had her shut down and remove Linux USB. Booted and had her change boot order in the BIOS to boot to SSD first. Repeats same issue as before Boot>GPU>BIOS>Black screen>GPU>BIOS>Black screen. Had her shut it down.
This is looking like it could be Windows related.
What I suggest, back up what you need from the SSD, download a fresh Windows ISO to an appropriate capacity USB thumb drive and then clean install it to the SSD but this time having made sure that it is installed in UEFI mode, if all goes well reinstall the drivers for the MB and starting with the chipset drivers first.
Test then post back with an update for us.
What I suggest, back up what you need from the SSD, download a fresh Windows ISO to an appropriate capacity USB thumb drive and then clean install it to the SSD but this time having made sure that it is installed in UEFI mode, if all goes well reinstall the drivers for the MB and starting with the chipset drivers first.
Test then post back with an update for us.
Okay, I actually just bought a new SSD for another build I'm working on, so I'll do it with that one because ultimately I want the SSD thats in the rig in question to go into my new rig. I'll do that first thing when I get home. Already got an ISO made, and I'll make sure to install Windows through UEFI. And I apologize in advance cause there's gonna be another post after this one lol.
Only use this ISO if it is not the same one that has been installed on the present SSD.
Installed my new SSD in the rig.
Attached ISO USB.
Booted rig.
Changed boot order to UEFI boot off of USB.
Began to install Windows.
Setup had PC restart.
Computer didn't boot.
Tried to force off.
Shut off but turned itself back on.
Tried to force off again.
Shut off and turned itself back on.
Repeat three times. Sit down to start typing.
GPU splash comes up and it freezes on MOBO splash. (I was hitting F2 to get into the BIOS and nothing was happening)
Restarts on it's own.
Boots into "ASRock" with spinning dots on bottom for several minutes.
Restarts again and finishes installing Windows.
Now currently installing drivers for GPU and the Chipset.
Restarted fine.
Installed more updates.
Went to install the cumulative update 2019-07 for 1903.
Blue Screen of Death
Reboots.
Attempt to reinstall 2019-07.
Restart after successful installation.
BSOD.
Restart.
MOBO installs updates
Restarts.
Windows installs updates.
Made it to the desktop.
Check for more updates. None.
Reboot for the hell of it.
Now noticing that there is an additional step when booting versus with the old SSD.
It spends a second on a screen with "ASRock" with the spinning dots now after the MOBO splash screen.
I'm assuming this is because of the UEFI install? because I've never seen it do this before in the entire time I've had the rig.
Attempted to shut down for the night.
Restarted on its own.
Went into BIOS and now I see "Windows Boot Manager" 1st in the boot order.
Attempt to put SSD in top spot.
Gives error saying needs installation media.
Power down rig.
Actually shuts off.
Power on.
Change boot order back to "Windows Boot Manager" 1st.
Restart and boots to Windows.
Attempt to shut down.
Reboots itself.
Google search. Turned off fast startup.
Finally shut off.
Will report in tomorrow to see if it boots on first try. I have a feeling it will.
Thanks for all your help by the way!
Attached ISO USB.
Booted rig.
Changed boot order to UEFI boot off of USB.
Began to install Windows.
Setup had PC restart.
Computer didn't boot.
Tried to force off.
Shut off but turned itself back on.
Tried to force off again.
Shut off and turned itself back on.
Repeat three times. Sit down to start typing.
GPU splash comes up and it freezes on MOBO splash. (I was hitting F2 to get into the BIOS and nothing was happening)
Restarts on it's own.
Boots into "ASRock" with spinning dots on bottom for several minutes.
Restarts again and finishes installing Windows.
Now currently installing drivers for GPU and the Chipset.
Restarted fine.
Installed more updates.
Went to install the cumulative update 2019-07 for 1903.
Blue Screen of Death
Reboots.
Attempt to reinstall 2019-07.
Restart after successful installation.
BSOD.
Restart.
MOBO installs updates
Restarts.
Windows installs updates.
Made it to the desktop.
Check for more updates. None.
Reboot for the hell of it.
Now noticing that there is an additional step when booting versus with the old SSD.
It spends a second on a screen with "ASRock" with the spinning dots now after the MOBO splash screen.
I'm assuming this is because of the UEFI install? because I've never seen it do this before in the entire time I've had the rig.
Attempted to shut down for the night.
Restarted on its own.
Went into BIOS and now I see "Windows Boot Manager" 1st in the boot order.
Attempt to put SSD in top spot.
Gives error saying needs installation media.
Power down rig.
Actually shuts off.
Power on.
Change boot order back to "Windows Boot Manager" 1st.
Restart and boots to Windows.
Attempt to shut down.
Reboots itself.
Google search. Turned off fast startup.
Finally shut off.
Will report in tomorrow to see if it boots on first try. I have a feeling it will.
Thanks for all your help by the way!
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Thanks for the very thorough update 
Will look out for your next update and you are welcome btw
Many folk (including me) have and are still having problems with this update and many of them are related to graphics drivers, your BSOD in case you are not aware is related to Nvidea drivers.
Will look out for your next update and you are welcome btw
I booted it this morning and it booted right up. I then powered down attached my 1TB HDD and it still booted.
I haven't had a hiccup since. No BSOD either now.
I'll check again tonight to see if it boots right up, but I think the UEFI install of Windows was the fix.
Question:
I'm about to put together a new rig with a MSI z370-A Pro and a 9th gen Intel i5 9400k, should the UEFI install of Windows be the go-to for all Windows installs?
Now my only issue is the power button not giving me a regular shut down.
I press (not hold) it and nothing happens after I turned off "Fast Boot" whereas before I turned off "Fast Boot" when I would press the button it would shut down normally, but then turn right back on.
Should I start a new thread for this?
I haven't had a hiccup since. No BSOD either now.
I'll check again tonight to see if it boots right up, but I think the UEFI install of Windows was the fix.
Question:
I'm about to put together a new rig with a MSI z370-A Pro and a 9th gen Intel i5 9400k, should the UEFI install of Windows be the go-to for all Windows installs?
Now my only issue is the power button not giving me a regular shut down.
I press (not hold) it and nothing happens after I turned off "Fast Boot" whereas before I turned off "Fast Boot" when I would press the button it would shut down normally, but then turn right back on.
Should I start a new thread for this?
If the computer boots up without issue the next time that you power up from a cold boot, the first thing that I suggest that you do is create a new system restore point
UEFI is the way to go with all new installs.
For any issues unrelated to this one please do start a new thread, going off topic is frowned upon as it can become confusing.
NB: Not finding any i5 9400K CPU btw..
UEFI is the way to go with all new installs.
For any issues unrelated to this one please do start a new thread, going off topic is frowned upon as it can become confusing.
NB: Not finding any i5 9400K CPU btw..
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