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  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15205

    #16
    Try restoring the MBs default factory settings in the BIOS, they are sometimes listed as one of the following " factory defaults" “most stable” or on newer boards “optimized” please note that if you have both the “most stable” and the “optimized” options in the BIOS you should choose the most stable" option as in this instance the “optimized” settings are a form of overclocking that can cause instability.

    If the above does not work it suggests that your original and new RAM are incompatible.

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    • Chambers1041
      PCHF Member
      • Oct 2021
      • 18

      #17
      Thank you, I’ll have some time later on to play around with the RAM again and will give this a shot.

      I also just got my first BSOD in over a week, this time for SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

      Not sure if that’s related or helps at all but thought it would be worth mentioning. I’ll report back when I’ve tried your suggestion.

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      • Chambers1041
        PCHF Member
        • Oct 2021
        • 18

        #18
        Alright so I have just spent about 15 minutes looking through the BIOS and I’ve not been able to find anything related to factory settings, even with some of the other wording you mentioned. I also tried googling for where this may be in the AsRock BIOS but all I can seem to find are people referring to resetting the CMOS battery. So I haven’t been able to perform your suggestion.

        Would it help if I take some pictures of the options in the BIOS?

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15205

          #19
          1. Copy any dmp files from C:\Windows\Minidump onto the desktop.
          2. Select all of them, right-click on one, and click on Send To> New Compressed (zipped) Folder.
          3. Upload the zip folder using the Attach button, bottom left of the dialogue input box

          Originally posted by Chambers1041
          Alright so I have just spent about 15 minutes looking through the BIOS and I’ve not been able to find anything related to factory settings,
          Did you not get a user manual with the MB, if not, you can download a copy from here

          See pages 53 and 54.

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          • Chambers1041
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 18

            #20
            Thanks for the reply, here is the dump, will take a look at the BIOS now with the manual.

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            • Chambers1041
              PCHF Member
              • Oct 2021
              • 18

              #21
              Okay, default UEFI settings are now loaded. Should I now try the 32GB setup again?

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15205

                #22
                [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Edit to add, sorry missed your last reply, we do not get any notification when you reply to your own last post so best avoid doing so unless a helper is expecting it.
                [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]
                [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Leave the RAM as is for the time being, do the below, run Speccy and post the new url for us if you will.

                Nvidea drivers were responsible for the crash;

                22/08/2021 NVIDIA - Display - 27.21.14.5671
                NVIDIA Display driver update[COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)] released in September 2020

                The present drivers are well out of date so you should follow the steps below to get the latest for the RTX 3080 which are Driver Version: 496.13 - Release Date: 2021 October 12

                Create a new folder on the desktop, name it Nvidea drivers.

                Manually search, download and save to the folder the latest RTX 3080 drivers from here

                Download DDU from here

                Create a new system restore point then run DDU and uninstall all present Nvidea drivers.

                Restart the computer in Safe Mode only (No Networking). [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]**

                Install the new GPU drivers that you saved to the folder on your desktop.

                Restart the computer, test then post back with an update for us.

                [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]** Do a normal restart if the GPU drivers will not install in Safe Mode[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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                • Chambers1041
                  PCHF Member
                  • Oct 2021
                  • 18

                  #23
                  Drivers installed via safe mode as instructed, here is the speccy http://speccy.piriform.com/results/K...iESCPzzEaDZ7aw

                  I’ll report any more BSODs if they happen

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15205

                    #24
                    Something for you to do to see how your present set up handles video when not online gaming;

                    Use the free versions at the following links;

                    Stress test your GPU with Furmark

                    Check your FPS etc with SUPERPOSITION

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                    • Chambers1041
                      PCHF Member
                      • Oct 2021
                      • 18

                      #25
                      Thank you, will give these a crack later on. I also just got a new BSOD for MEMORY_MANAGEMENT which I haven’t had in a while. I have attached the minidump below

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15205

                        #26
                        It wasn`t RAM related.

                        What was the computer being used for when this latest BSOD happened and more importantly which one of the storage devices were you accessing data from, pagefile corruption was the cause of the crash with the process that got tripped up being Windows Defender.

                        Have you ever had any other AV program installed on this computer.

                        Post an Autoruns log for us, see here

                        1: Extract the Autoruns Zip file contents to a folder.

                        2: Double-click the “Autoruns.exe”.

                        3: Click on the "Hide Signed Microsoft and Windows Entries” option.

                        4: Go to File then to Export As or Save in some versions.

                        5: Save AutoRuns.txt file to known location like your Desktop > when you click on File > Save you will then get the option to Save as type, click the drop down tab, change it to Text and then click the Save button.

                        6: Attach to your next reply.

                        Tutorial here

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                        • Chambers1041
                          PCHF Member
                          • Oct 2021
                          • 18

                          #27
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          It wasn`t RAM related.

                          What was the computer being used for when this latest BSOD happened and more importantly which one of the storage devices were you accessing data from, pagefile corruption was the cause of the crash with the process that got tripped up being Windows Defender.

                          Have you ever had any other AV program installed on this computer.

                          Post an Autoruns log for us, see here

                          1: Extract the Autoruns Zip file contents to a folder.

                          2: Double-click the “Autoruns.exe”.

                          3: Click on the "Hide Signed Microsoft and Windows Entries” option.

                          4: Go to File then to Export As or Save in some versions.

                          5: Save AutoRuns.txt file to known location like your Desktop > when you click on File > Save you will then get the option to Save as type, click the drop down tab, change it to Text and then click the Save button.

                          6: Attach to your next reply.

                          Tutorial here
                          I was playing Valorant (not in game, just in the lobby from memory). Valorant is installed on my A drive. The only 3rd party AV I have installed is malwarebytes which I don’t have real time protection turned on, I just manually scan files with it if needed.

                          I have attached the autoruns file below

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15205

                            #28
                            How did the Furmark and SUPERPOSITION tests go.

                            You looked to have missed 3: Click on the "Hide Signed Microsoft and Windows Entries” option. which means getting through the log will take me an eternity

                            For now I will wait on an update regarding those two tests.

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                            • Chambers1041
                              PCHF Member
                              • Oct 2021
                              • 18

                              #29
                              How did the Furmark and SUPERPOSITION tests go.

                              This is a screenshot of my Furmark results running the 2k 1440p preset: [MEDIA=imgur]PRc4eBs[/MEDIA]

                              Here is a screenshot of the Superposition result on the 1080p extreme preset: [MEDIA=imgur]PRc4eBs[/MEDIA]
                              You looked to have missed 3: Click on the "Hide Signed Microsoft and Windows Entries” option. which means getting through the log will take me an eternity

                              I just went to run it again for you as I was pretty sure I selected it, however wanted to check. These are the tickboxes I have which look slightly different to the option in the guide you linked. [MEDIA=imgur]aGtGcQI[/MEDIA]

                              I am happy to re-run this for you to make it easier if I have done it wrong.

                              Side comment;

                              I also thought it might be worth mentioning that aside from that 1 off BSOD I attached a few posts above, I’ve also been experiencing occasional stutters on the system during gameplay (3 different games, 2 installed on the A drive and one on the D drive). The game as well as all other applications will freeze up for around 3 seconds (at a guess) before everything going back to normal.

                              These stutters were not happening back when I had the 2 sticks of older RAM in the system, but have cropped up now that I have the newer sticks in their place. I was wondering if it may be worth me swapping back to the older ones and using my PC as normal for a while to see if I run into these freezes, but didn’t want to do so without your advice.

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                              • phillpower2
                                PCHF Administrator
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 15205

                                #30
                                You appear to have uploaded two of the same screenshots I`m afraid, no matter though if your PC did not crash when running Furmark as your results look very good.

                                The format looks to have been updated so yes, please do an updated Autoruns log for us using the options that you have checked.

                                If you wish to swap just the old RAM back in it is important that you recreate the exact same usage conditions as when you were using the new RAM.
                                Originally posted by Chambers1041
                                I’ve also been experiencing occasional stutters on the system during gameplay (3 different games, 2 installed on the A drive and one on the D drive). The game as well as all other applications will freeze up for around 3 seconds (at a guess) before everything going back to normal.
                                Any stuttering behaviour is going off topic from your OP, as long as the original issue has been resolved this thread should be marked as solved and you then need to start a new thread on the internal hardware forum.

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