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  • ejc49
    PCHF Member
    • Dec 2024
    • 11

    #1

    new motherboard

    looking to build a pc first time, i have in mind the i5 12600kf ,what wound be the fair motherboard to use, not a gamer but need good Wi-Fi and ethernet as I download also watch live sport, also want to watch via a 4k monitor.
  • PeterOz
    PCHF Technical Response Team
    • Mar 2021
    • 4181

    #2
    Not a direct answer to your question.
    However, since this is your first build I will offer some unasked-for advice.
    The MB has to be Intel LGA 1700 socket
    You need to match the ram to the cpu and the mb.
    There is no use in buying ram that can run faster on the MB but the cpu cannot handle it.
    For example, the MB may take 6200 MT/s ram but the cpu cannot.
    Memory Types for your cpu.
    Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s
    Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s
    A case that is big enough to handle the size of the MB you are going to use.
    And that will also fit the GPU.
    Enough room for fans.
    1 fan is never enough.
    The main part that is normally the least expensive but the most critical is the PSU (power supply unit)
    In my opinion only you should look for a minimum Gold rated and enough wattage for your needs and a 5โ€“10-year warranty.
    One of the main parts to look at is how much the graphics card will need then add an extra leeway.
    I also suggest that when you pick your parts you ask if someone will look over what you intend to buy to make sure
    that the parts will work together.
    Originally posted by ejc49
    also want to watch via a 4k monitor.
    What monitor do you have or at least what type of connections does it have E.G HDMI,DP etc.
    What is your budget for an MB?

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    • ejc49
      PCHF Member
      • Dec 2024
      • 11

      #3
      Originally posted by PeterOz
      Not a direct answer to your question.
      However, since this is your first build I will offer some unasked-for advice.
      The MB has to be Intel LGA 1700 socket
      You need to match the ram to the cpu and the mb.
      There is no use in buying ram that can run faster on the MB but the cpu cannot handle it.
      For example, the MB may take 6200 MT/s ram but the cpu cannot.
      Memory Types for your cpu.
      Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s
      Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s
      A case that is big enough to handle the size of the MB you are going to use.
      And that will also fit the GPU.
      Enough room for fans.
      1 fan is never enough.
      The main part that is normally the least expensive but the most critical is the PSU (power supply unit)
      In my opinion only you should look for a minimum Gold rated and enough wattage for your needs and a 5โ€“10-year warranty.
      One of the main parts to look at is how much the graphics card will need then add an extra leeway.
      I also suggest that when you pick your parts you ask if someone will look over what you intend to buy to make sure
      that the parts will work together.

      What monitor do you have or at least what type of connections does it have E.G HDMI,DP etc.
      What is your budget for an MB?
      i have not decided on the monitor yet , i will look as the build starts, as for the Motherboard i have no preconceived ideas other than as i said i might invest in the i5 12600 as it appears a good mid unit although superseded now by later models, i am also thinking of the Fractal Design Focus 2 case as its look is understated.

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      • PeterOz
        PCHF Technical Response Team
        • Mar 2021
        • 4181

        #4
        You Missed the main part
        Originally posted by PeterOz
        What is your budget for an MB?

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        • ejc49
          PCHF Member
          • Dec 2024
          • 11

          #5
          Originally posted by PeterOz
          You Missed the main part
          no idea, as iv only looked at used so far its not something i have checked into but i would say 100

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          • ejc49
            PCHF Member
            • Dec 2024
            • 11

            #6
            Originally posted by PeterOz
            You Missed the main part
            your right i didnt expand enough as i just said around a 100

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            • PeterOz
              PCHF Technical Response Team
              • Mar 2021
              • 4181

              #7
              Sorry I am not trying to drag this out.
              Is that 100 Euros, Pounds, Us Dollars etc.
              @phillpower2 any recommendations?

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              • ejc49
                PCHF Member
                • Dec 2024
                • 11

                #8
                Originally posted by PeterOz
                Sorry I am not trying to drag this out.
                Is that 100 Euros, Pounds, Us Dollars etc.
                @phillpower2 any recommendations?
                sorry its pounds up to 140 say

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15205

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PeterOz
                  @phillpower2 any recommendations?
                  Be happy to take a look Peter but will have to start with the advice that the OP is going about things in totally the wrong way, the very appropriate reply #2 of Bruce outlines as to why;

                  To emphasize just the basics as to how it is done;

                  You decide on the choice of CPU.

                  You check for MBs that have the specs that you want.

                  Once you have selected a MB that meets your requirements you do the below;

                  Check the specs of the chosen CPU to confirm the fastest RAM that the CPU can handle.

                  You go to the MBs support page and find the maximum speed of RAM for the CPU and then use the info provided there to shop around for the best prices.

                  Note that while at the MBs support page you should always check to see if the MB needs a BIOS update to be able to recognise the chosen CPU.
                  Originally posted by ejc49
                  , i have in mind the i5 12600kf
                  Wouldnโ€™t consider it as it has no on die video which means two things, you will need to purchase an add on video card which will increase the cost of not just a video card but also a minimum of a Gold efficiency rated PSU that is needed to support the said add on GPU, secondly, should the add on GPU ever fail you will be left without video as in a non usable PC.

                  A far wiser choice of CPU would be the i5-12600K that has on die video as opposed to the i5-12600KF which does not.

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                  • ejc49
                    PCHF Member
                    • Dec 2024
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Originally posted by phillpower2
                    Be happy to take a look Peter but will have to start with the advice that the OP is going about things in totally the wrong way, the very appropriate reply #2 of Bruce outlines as to why;

                    To emphasize just the basics as to how it is done;

                    You decide on the choice of CPU.

                    You check for MBs that have the specs that you want.

                    Once you have selected a MB that meet your requirements you do the below;

                    Check the specs of the chosen CPU to see what the fastest RAM is that the CPU can handle.

                    You go to the MBs support page and find the maximum speed of RAM for the CPU and then use the info provided there to shop around for the best prices.

                    Note that while at the MBs support page you should always check to see if the MB needs a BIOS update to be able to recognise the chosen CPU.

                    Wouldnโ€™t consider it as it has no on die video which means two things, you will need to purchase an add on video card which will increase the cost of not just a video card but also a minimum of a Gold efficiency rated PSU that is needed to support the said add on GPU, secondly, should the add on GPU ever fail you will be left without video as in a non usable PC.

                    I far wiser choice of CPU would be the i5-12600K that has on die video as opposed to the i5-12600KF which does not.
                    thank you for your assistance

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15205

                      #11
                      You are welcome, is there anything else that we can help you with.

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                      • ejc49
                        PCHF Member
                        • Dec 2024
                        • 11

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ejc49
                        thank you for your assistance
                        Originally posted by phillpower2
                        You are welcome, is there anything else that we can help you with.
                        not at the moment thank you

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                        • phillpower2
                          PCHF Administrator
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 15205

                          #13
                          Great, thanks for letting us know that you no longer require assistance ???

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                          • Bruce
                            PCHF Member
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 10697

                            #14
                            Re-opened

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                            • PeterOz
                              PCHF Technical Response Team
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 4181

                              #15
                              Op asked about these 2
                              juust to confirm that this is the ideal motherboard as we were discussing for the i512600 and ddr5 and good wifi and ethernet
                              [HEADING=2]Gigabyte B760M GAMING X DDR4 Intel Micro ATX Motherboard - LGA 1700[/HEADING]

                              [HEADING=2]Gigabyte Intel B760M AORUS ELITE AX LGA 1700 DDR5 Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard[/HEADING]

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