Impossible to research; persistent frame stutter/jitter

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  • TicoEx
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2024
    • 22

    #1

    Impossible to research; persistent frame stutter/jitter

    Hi everyone,

    Please bear with me as this my first post on these forums. My specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qWjVxH

    It’s hard to describe exactly what I’m experiencing; I’ll attempt to attach a couple videos to demonstrate the issues and hope that succeeds where my words fail.

    The issue first appeared as a seeming drop in fps. Despite my FPS counter displayed 240, it honestly felt closer to 60 and I couldn’t figure it out. I changed graphics settings and whatnot, but had no improvement. In fact, I had no progress until i decided to take a slow motion video in order to better understand the behavior I was experiencing. The results were puzzling. Firstly, the image appears highly torn. Secondly, there appears to be a strange ‘jitter’ that is most visible on the edge of geometry. Thirdly, there’s noticeable ghosting and after images along with strange fore-images. I have noticed a couple of other things that seem strange and might be related: occasional audio crackle (specifically when watching YouTube) and highish system latency (uses to be very high). This issue seems impossible to search online as every result is regarding standard CPU/GPU stutter and not the unique jitter im experiencing.

    Here are 3 videos that demonstrate the issue: Computer Issues – Google Drive

    Now for the things I’ve tried.

    -VGA driver clean install (DDU)
    -CPU/GPU performance/temp monitoring
    -BIOS update
    -CMOS reset
    -reseating GPU
    -OS clean install
    -different dp cable
    -different monitor
    -switched to integrated graphics
    -different mouse
    -reinstalled mobo drivers
    -tried each RAM stick on its own
    -turned off XMP
    -changed refresh rate
    -changed resolution
    -used a controller
    -MemTest (1 pass)
    -Windows memory test
    -Disk Check
    -system file checker
    -Park Control

    I’m sure I’m forgetting some stuff, but this is a good list to start. Please give me any and all leads. At this point I’m hoping to find someone who might have dealt with this before.
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8978

    #2
    Hello

    Give us your complete pc spec’s , including the psu spec’s .

    @Bruce

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    • Bruce
      PCHF Moderator
      • Oct 2017
      • 10697

      #3
      Your Parts Picker list is what you wanted to get, that may have changed, and even if not, let’s see what Windows thinks you have.

      To aid in Veeg’s request, let’s do a full workup of your system specs.
      No personal data is published and everything shown is safe.
      1. Download Speccy by Piriform.
        In Speccy, click File > Publish Snapshot > Copy to Clipboard > Close.
        Paste that link into your post. Is Speccy safe?
      2. Download GetSystemInfo by Kaspersky.
        In GSI, click Start. (takes about 10mins)
        It makes a ZIP file on your desktop, drag that to their GSI Parser site.
        Once analysed, paste the newly created URL into your post.
      3. Download MiniToolBox by Farbar.
        In MTB, tick List Installed Programs, click Go then close the program.
        A file MTB.txt is created in the same folder, attach that to your post.
      4. Did you end up getting the Asus ROG-STRIX-850G 80+ Gold PSU?
      5. Go to www.speedtest.net and screenshot your network speeds.

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      • TicoEx
        PCHF Member
        • Jul 2024
        • 22

        #4
        Originally posted by veeg
        Hello

        Give us your complete pc spec’s , including the psu spec’s .

        @Bruce
        Hi thank you for your reply. I included a PcPartPicker list of my specs including my PSU. do you want my case and storage too?

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        • TicoEx
          PCHF Member
          • Jul 2024
          • 22

          #5
          Originally posted by Bruce
          Your Parts Picker list is what you wanted to get, that may have changed, and even if not, let’s see what Windows thinks you have.

          To aid in Veeg’s request, let’s do a full workup of your system specs.
          No personal data is published and everything shown is safe.
          1. Download Speccy by Piriform.
            In Speccy, click File > Publish Snapshot > Copy to Clipboard > Close.
            Paste that link into your post. Is Speccy safe?
          2. Download GetSystemInfo by Kaspersky.
            In GSI, click Start. (takes about 10mins)
            It makes a ZIP file on your desktop, drag that to their GSI Parser site.
            Once analysed, paste the newly created URL into your post.
          3. Download MiniToolBox by Farbar.
            In MTB, tick List Installed Programs, click Go then close the program.
            A file MTB.txt is created in the same folder, attach that to your post.
          4. Did you end up getting the Asus ROG-STRIX-850G 80+ Gold PSU?
          5. Go to www.speedtest.net and screenshot your network speeds.
          Thank you for the response. I’ve done as you said. I’m including the results in this reply.

          Yes I did get the 850W. The PCPart List is completely up to date.

          Kaspersky GetSystemInfo (GSI) Parser allows you to check and fix PC compatibility issues between Kaspersky products and other software. Troubleshoot with Kaspersky GSI Parser!


          [ATTACH type=“full” size=“888x381”]14051[/ATTACH]

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          • TicoEx
            PCHF Member
            • Jul 2024
            • 22

            #6
            Originally posted by Bruce
            Your Parts Picker list is what you wanted to get, that may have changed, and even if not, let’s see what Windows thinks you have.

            To aid in Veeg’s request, let’s do a full workup of your system specs.
            No personal data is published and everything shown is safe.
            1. Download Speccy by Piriform.
              In Speccy, click File > Publish Snapshot > Copy to Clipboard > Close.
              Paste that link into your post. Is Speccy safe?
            2. Download GetSystemInfo by Kaspersky.
              In GSI, click Start. (takes about 10mins)
              It makes a ZIP file on your desktop, drag that to their GSI Parser site.
              Once analysed, paste the newly created URL into your post.
            3. Download MiniToolBox by Farbar.
              In MTB, tick List Installed Programs, click Go then close the program.
              A file MTB.txt is created in the same folder, attach that to your post.
            4. Did you end up getting the Asus ROG-STRIX-850G 80+ Gold PSU?
            5. Go to www.speedtest.net and screenshot your network speeds.
            Additionally, I’d like to ask if I should post this issue in software instead? I’m at the stage where I believe my issue is likely to be the mobo, but I’m hoping to get any and everything else eliminated first, including software/drivers.

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            • Bruce
              PCHF Moderator
              • Oct 2017
              • 10697

              #7
              Looks like you forget the Speccy URL, unless I can’t see it which is possible with the dark hyperlink colour.
              No need for the case specs, and the storage stuff will be in those reports.
              We’ll leave the posts in this forum section, can always move it as needs dictate.

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              • TicoEx
                PCHF Member
                • Jul 2024
                • 22

                #8
                Originally posted by Bruce
                Looks like you forget the Speccy URL, unless I can’t see it which is possible with the dark hyperlink colour.
                I completely did. Here it is: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/4...rMCT7OZcWRQSFg

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                • Bruce
                  PCHF Moderator
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 10697

                  #9
                  According to GSI, the last time Windows was reloaded was December 2022.
                  Is that correct?
                  If so, that’s what I’d be doing first up.
                  The GSI report, in the System Properties page, Log Events tab, show a few services terminating multiple times.

                  For me, I’d be taking the whole thing back to square one;
                  [ul]
                  [li]Download the Windows Media Creation Tool from here; Ohjelmiston lataus by clicking the Download Now button.[/li][li]Double click your downloaded file to create a bootable USB stick with your selected Windows version. The stick needs to be at least 8GB and all contents on it will be erased.[/li][li]Also visit your motherboard manufactures website and download the chipset drivers for audio, video, network, etc. Save these to another USB stick.[/li][li]Only have one drive connected, the boot drive. And have the PC off the web.[/li][li]Reboot the PC with the Windows USB inserted, the PC should boot from the stick, if it doesn’t, you’ll need to get in the BIOS and change the boot order.[/li][li]During the installation of Windows, you are offered the chance to delete all the current partitions - do that.[/li][li]Once installed, stay off the web, install those pre-saved chipset drivers.[/li][li]Turn off the PC, reconnect any extra drives, connect back to the web, disconnect the USB sticks. Reboot the PC.[/li][li]Now you can activate Windows and check for Windows Updates.[/li][/ul]
                  With the PC in this clean state, now check YouTube and see if the problems are still there.
                  Then load one game and test again.

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                  • Bruce
                    PCHF Moderator
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 10697

                    #10
                    From the Speccy report
                    [ul]
                    [li]drive A:\ showing Read Error Rate and Seek Error Rate values, so potential issue there. Disconnect A:\ and see if things improve[/li][li]in BIOS, turn off XMP mode in memory section[/li][/ul]

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                    • TicoEx
                      PCHF Member
                      • Jul 2024
                      • 22

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bruce
                      From the Speccy report
                      [ul]
                      [li]drive A:\ showing Read Error Rate and Seek Error Rate values, so potential issue there. Disconnect A:\ and see if things improve[/li][li]in BIOS, turn off XMP mode in memory section[/li][/ul]
                      I considered my storage earlier today. I booted into just he 2 NVMEs, knowing the issue started before I installed them. No change.

                      I’ve also tried cycling out one memory stick at a time and also turning XMP off. No change

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                      • Bruce
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 10697

                        #12
                        If my PC, I’d be going down the ‘nuke it from space’ path.

                        Let’s get some other input - @PeterOz @Pyro @xrobwx71 @Malnutrition @georgeks

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                        • TicoEx
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jul 2024
                          • 22

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bruce
                          If my PC, I’d be going down the ‘nuke it from space’ path.

                          Let’s get some other input - @PeterOz @Pyro @xrobwx71 @Malnutrition @georgeks
                          Honestly starting to feel thats appropriate. Trying to cover all bases before resorting to a part-by-part analysis

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                          • georgeks
                            PCHF Member
                            • May 2017
                            • 335

                            #14
                            What if you remove the MSI Afterburner and try again?

                            Is the system on RAID configuration?

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                            • TicoEx
                              PCHF Member
                              • Jul 2024
                              • 22

                              #15
                              Originally posted by georgeks
                              What is you remove the MSI Afterburner and try again?

                              Is the system on RAID configuration?
                              Afterburner doesn’t seem to show anything that stands out. Should i screenshot anything in particular?

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