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  • Saratiga
    PCHF Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 21

    #16
    Red just means mirrored

    No I havent installed any RAID drivers. I looked at how to do a mirroring of a Volume and i thought thats what raid 1 basically is.
    I cant take My Seagate drives Offline without disabling the Mirroring and letting the System fully delete everything from 1 of the Mirrored drives.

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    • phillpower2
      PCHF Administrator
      • Sep 2016
      • 15205

      #17
      Originally posted by Saratiga
      Red just means mirrored
      Can honestly say that I have never seen that before, is the info documented anywhere.

      Leave all the drives alone for now then, I am curious as to how you ever set the drive up in RAID without ever installing the specific MSI AM4 RAID driver, it`s not something that Windows generically has.

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      • Saratiga
        PCHF Member
        • Apr 2023
        • 21

        #18
        Originally posted by phillpower2
        Can honestly say that I have never seen that before, is the info documented anywhere.

        Leave all the drives alone for now then, I am curious as to how you ever set the drive up in RAID without ever installing the specific MSI AM4 RAID driver, it`s not something that Windows generically has.
        I Accidentally cut the Legend out because the image was so stretched
        Gespiegelt = Mirrored in German

        As for how i did that, just rightclick a Volume and there is a “Add Mirroring” button.
        (Doesnt work with every drive, on all my other drives its greyed out)

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15205

          #19
          Definitely in RAID of sorts and done through Windows 10 somehow, can I ask to why you have done this in the first place..

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          • Saratiga
            PCHF Member
            • Apr 2023
            • 21

            #20
            I did this to secure my Data, because most of it is in my HDD and everything else like Games/Drivers/Windows are in my SSD´s.
            Also one of the HDD´s is already 3 Years old, thus almost in the Age Zone where Errors may occur (The other not even a Year) and i dont want to throw it away if it does still work.

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15205

              #21
              Not what RAID is for and you are in fact treading a fine line and for two reasons, you should never ever have any back up on the same drive because should the drive fail you have not only lost your primary data but also your back up, second reason, Seagate were at one time up there with Western Digital when it came to quality but with the advent of the Barracuda range quality suffered and so much so that any drive other than Seagate would do, want to know just how bad things got for Seagate, take a look here

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              • Saratiga
                PCHF Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 21

                #22
                Not sure if you understood that i have 2 Drives and not one that backups itself.
                Drive one >3 years old (backupping to Drive two via Mirroring)
                Drive two <1Year old
                Not sure how the Mirroring works, if Errors get mirrored too or if a “Real” RAID 1 would be better, i have not much experience with raid.

                I know that Seagate isnt as good anymore(still better than Intenso), but the specific drive i have is the best Rated of them.
                But this is also a reason why i tried getting a Backup with RAID.
                So far i´ve never had any issue with seagate drives, if something does come up i will switch to something else.

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15205

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Saratiga
                  [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]I did this to secure my Data, because most of it is in my HDD and everything else like Games/Drivers/Windows are in my SSD´s.
                  [/COLOR]
                  [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]
                  With you now but I did read it as you only had the one Seagate partitioned into two, I was not the only one that was confused because Speccy was as well, not often you see two exact drives in use as you have them and as I said I’ve not seen such a red bar in Disk Manager before as it is normally used to identify a bad HDD.

                  Have you had any problems since freeing up the space and has Windows now installed the April 11, 2023—KB5025221 update.[/color]

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                  • Saratiga
                    PCHF Member
                    • Apr 2023
                    • 21

                    #24
                    Okay i have the update, upon restarting i now seem to have a bios issue
                    which bios should i flash? the newest or an older version?
                    I have a 2nd pc to get the bios on a stick

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15205

                      #25
                      How did this BIOS episode come about ?

                      Anything pre boot is hardware or BIOS configuration related and nothing goes on there without something being broken or down to human intervention, short version, Windows has nothing to do with the BIOS so something else has gone on.

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                      • Saratiga
                        PCHF Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 21

                        #26
                        I have no idea, i can only guess that space radiation was at it again flipping some 1 & 0’s
                        Last time i updated to the newest version from 03.03.2023
                        before that i had one from 2020,
                        should i still go for the newest or which do you think?
                        Link is to BIOS Versions
                        https://de.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-X...G-PLUS/support

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                        • phillpower2
                          PCHF Administrator
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 15205

                          #27
                          See my canned info below regarding updates;
                          Once Windows has been installed, you install the necessary drivers for the MB and other hardware and then leave well alone, drivers should not be allowed to auto update and you should never update any driver/s unless the new drivers are intended to resolve a specific issue that you are having, installing new drivers unnecessarily can actually cause you the very issues that any new drivers are intended to resolve and uninstalling the new drivers may not resolve the problem/s that installing the new drivers has caused.
                          Depending on priority it can take many months before the driver provider releases any fix and depending on the age of the hardware or software concerned they sometimes do not even bother or may have already announced an end of support.

                          [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]The exact same policy applies to the BIOS, do not update it unless it is advised by the manufacturer of the hardware or alternatively if it is to allow for a CPU upgrade.

                          Updating things for no reason has a 50/50 chance of bricking your computer, don`t gamble unless you can (A) Do without the computer (B) have loads of spare cash and can buy a new one with no problem or (C) Both of the previous.


                          If you have not been messing around with anything in the BIOS something else has gone on, the BIOS can`t find a boot drive which means one of two things, the boot drive is toast or a combination of the drive and the Windows OS on it are both hosed.

                          Can I ask how the HDD/SSD is identified in the BIOS, a Seagate HDD for example will be listed something like ST1000DM004 and a Western Digital along the lines of WD10JPLX other brands will have similar identification codes, only when such an ID code is present is a HDD/SSD actually detected and an entry simply listed as SATA HDD/SSD means that the BIOS will and has looked for a boot device in that particular boot sequence but no HDD/SSD was detected.[/COLOR]

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                          • Saratiga
                            PCHF Member
                            • Apr 2023
                            • 21

                            #28
                            Yea i remembered to not update the BIOS unless necessary, but i remembered a bit late in my trance to update everything.

                            I cant say how the bios detects the drives because i cant do anything else than to flash a bios.
                            But still unsure which Version is best at this point.

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                            • phillpower2
                              PCHF Administrator
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 15205

                              #29
                              Unless told different by the maker of the board at their download page you should always use the latest version of BIOS.

                              I don`t believe in beating around the bush and prefer to be straight, if the last version of BIOS you used was the latest you may well have bricked your MB
                              Originally posted by Saratiga
                              I cant say how the bios detects the drives because i cant do anything else than to flash a bios.
                              Confused by this as your pics 1 and 2 suggest that no boot drive can be found and only pic 3 suggests a BIOS issue.

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                              • Saratiga
                                PCHF Member
                                • Apr 2023
                                • 21

                                #30
                                I’m now in Flash mode and my drives are recognized, will try the newest bios version 7C37vAJ

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