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  • Cibot
    PCHF Member
    • Jan 2022
    • 17

    #16
    AMD say here Minimum PSU Recommendation 850 W

    The above recommendation says Minimum for a very good reason, it is based on the average users build which is something that your build well surpasses, hence the reason why you were advised of the below;

    I understand that and have noted it as I said. I have monitored the power draw already and it doesn’t go above 650 while playing very GPU or CPU demanding video games. But I do realize that I must’ve calculated something wrong when choosing my psu. I’ll look for a 1000 or (probably) 1200 W PSU.
    Just looking at peak consumption of my components I end up with this calculation:

    6900XT = 522 W
    CPU = 230 W
    4x15 HDD = 60
    3x5 m2 SSD = 15
    RAM = 30 W
    Mainboard = 80 W

    TOTAL = 937 W PEAK
    As I said, I have not seen my power draw numbers go anywhere near that but It could still happen as you have said.
    Not sure what you mean, nowhere was the RAM speed called into question and I clearly said that you had the wrong RAM for your CPU and backed this up with what AMD state here if you disagree with this don`t shoot the messenger but instead argue it out with AMD who know their own processor better than you or I.

    Well if you don’t mean the RAM speed, what exactly is WRONG with my ram then? I have checked the motherboard supported ram and there is this same RAM model except the size being listed as supported. So I assumed it would be supported. Actually in fact, I have checked many different brands and very few of them even had 64 GB - 6000 - CL36 or below speed supported so I assumed they tested with 16-32 GB since very few people use 64 GB. I actually only saw 1 model supported on an ASUS motherboard and it was from a RAM Brand that is not really available in Germany.

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    The above is not rocket science just doing ones homework before spending a load of cash only to end up in the brown stuff.

    Yes that was what I did. With Configuration, I was refering to the subtimings and mhz which is configured in the XMP profile.

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    • phillpower2
      PCHF Administrator
      • Sep 2016
      • 15205

      #17
      Originally posted by Cibot
      But I do realize that I must’ve calculated something wrong when choosing my psu.
      No one is born knowing this stuff and what you have done is both methodical and thorough, problem is though that builders experience is better than calculations that do not take other factors into account, in this instance your additional storage devices and screens, the answer to this is you check the minimum PSU that the GPU manufacturer states and then add the wattage that your additional hardware needs, 1000W would be about right for your build.
      Originally posted by Cibot
      Well if you don’t mean the RAM speed, what exactly is WRONG with my ram
      Nothing and again no one here has said that there is, the issue that you have is that when XMP is enabled the RAM is too fast for the CPU to handle, AMD are the ones that state 5200MHz is the maximum recommended, you have proved that 6000MHz will work but the problem with that is that AMD do not guarantee stability for anything faster than 5200MHz.

      Just a fyi, the idea behind XMP is that you get the fastest RAM that the CPU can handle, enable XMP and that takes care of the rest, if you get RAM that is too fast for the CPU and enable XMP the PC will either blue screen right away or be ok for a while and then start giving you problems, two possible solutions, knock off XMP and manually OC the RAM to the max that the CPU can handle or go the other way and OC the CPU so that it can keep up with the RAM.

      Regarding your picture above, I addressed this in my reply #15;
      Originally posted by phillpower2
      A CPU has to be compatible with a MB [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]whereas the RAM has to be compatible with both the CPU and the MB, this because a MB may be able to function with faster RAM than the CPU intended for use in the build.
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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15205

        #18
        Cibot,

        You have visited the forum more than once since my last reply but have yet to provide the crash dmps that were requested on Wednesday.

        Let us know if you no longer require assistance and we will close the thread.

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        • Cibot
          PCHF Member
          • Jan 2022
          • 17

          #19
          I have created a ticket with Gigabyte since this doesn’t seem to be an issue due to an error on my part since BIOS version F3 is running absolutely stable without any freezes or bluescreens so I’m waiting on their reply but I suppose the thread can be closed as there will not be a solution to this issue except by gigabyte probably providing a new BIOS version.

          I was gonna try another motherboard but it still hasn’t been delivered to me even though I did express shipping.
          Regarding the RAM, I do know what XMP is. Ram always runs at some speed lower than the advertised speed. Since they always advertise the XMP speed on the ram. Meaning 6000MHz ram is actually like 4800MHz baseclock ram. Either way you may be saying that AMD doesn’t guarantee stability but that’s not a valid argument to me to say ‘It is not the correct RAM’. The same RAM model (32GB while I have 64GB) is advertised as supported. As there are many mainboard manufacturers stating that their RAM is compatible with 6000MHz+ speeds. Given the fact that there is not a single Ryzen AM5 CPU which has a different specification regarding ram, it doesn’t matter whether they tested with 7600 or 7950X. All have that 5200 MHz RAM spec. As such I absolutely disagree with you, that this number even means anything. The only correct place to be looking at, would be the boards manufacturers supported list.
          Also as I said in my opening post, I didn’t even run XMP with my RAM when the blue screens were happening, so the ram was running at 4800MHz, which is below the 5200 MHz.

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15205

            #20
            Originally posted by Cibot
            Either way you may be saying that AMD doesn’t guarantee stability but that’s not a valid argument to me to say ‘It is not the correct RAM’.
            Sorry but if you are such an expert why are you even here, I have afforded you my time, been courteous throughout and have backed up anything advised by technical data from AMD, I said don[ICODE]t shoot the messenger so don[/ICODE]t, take yourself off and tell AMD that they are wrong, I`m sure that they will appreciate such expert advice from an amateur.

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