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  • marioxb
    PCHF Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 11

    #1

    Help ID what part is called (picture)

    Hello. I don’t really know the names of all internal PC components and slots. What I want to do is add two extra SATA ports to my Windows desktop. These are the only PCI slots I have available. Can I get a “this type of” PCI card to SATA port card? I don’t have any express ports, nor any other type of slot/ port. When I search, I can only find either PCI express or PCI cards with more pins (I think). What is that gap between the pins called, the part that makes sure you don’t plug the cards upside down? Mine only has one gap thing, all the cards I’ve found, if not express, have 2 gaps between the pins. Thank you![ATTACH type=“full” alt=“20230108_085446.jpg”]11283[/ATTACH]
  • Rustys
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7862

    #2
    What is the make and model of the motherboard.

    What cards are you looking at brands make and model

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    • marioxb
      PCHF Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 11

      #3
      I have no idea. And I have no idea. Just searching Amazon for PCI sata card. Can’t you just tell me what kind of port that is by looking at the picture? The desktop is just a random desktop I’ve had for like 10 years.

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      • Rustys
        PCHF Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 7862

        #4
        Not really PCI E and PCI 16 look the same.

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        • marioxb
          PCHF Member
          • Jan 2023
          • 11

          #5
          According to this website, it’s definitely the bottom beige ones, not PCIE.

          The main difference between PCI and PCI Express is that the PCI is a parallel interface while PCI Express is a serial interface. Moreover, the PCI Express is the latest version of PCI...


          [IMG alt="Difference-Between-PCI-and-PCI-Express_Figure-1" width="666px" height="500px"]https://i2.wp.com/pediaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Difference-Between-PCI-and-PCI-Express_Figure-1.jpg[/IMG]

          But all I really need to know is what is the gap between the pins called (circled in the attachment below):[ATTACH type=“full”]11284[/ATTACH]

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          • marioxb
            PCHF Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 11

            #6
            And this is the best I can do as far as model of my PC. Whatever motherboard it came with.
            [ATTACH type=“full” alt=“20230108_150059.jpg”]11285[/ATTACH]

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            • PeterOz
              PCHF Technical Response Team
              • Mar 2021
              • 4181

              #7
              what the gap is called is immaterial
              your main issue is the height of the card to make sure it will fit inside your computer case
              as you only have a small form factor computer.
              So, you need to check card height.
              Also do you have enough power connectors to run extra drives.
              you need something like this BUT you need to check the card height with the seller
              and you need to find a local seller in whatever country you live in

              This link is to show what you need to look for.

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              • marioxb
                PCHF Member
                • Jan 2023
                • 11

                #8
                Thank you! So the fact that the card you linked has two notches and my card slot only has one doesn’t matter? And as far as power, I figure I can use something like this:

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                • PeterOz
                  PCHF Technical Response Team
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 4181

                  #9
                  Depends on where the notch is on yours https://sites.google.com/site/duanes...lass/pci-slots
                  left or right = 3.3v opposed to 5v.
                  Also, if you do not have spare cables coming from the power supply it might not work
                  as brand name computers put in minimum power supply that can power the standard parts.
                  This helps keep the cost down.
                  if you want to add extra drive why not connect via usb

                  @phillpower2 @Bruce any input from you guys?

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                  • Bruce
                    PCHF Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 10697

                    #10
                    that circle part of the PCI slot is called a notch.
                    it stops incompatible boards from being installed into just any available slot.

                    much like any of your memory slots.
                    the notch determines which way around the module goes, and stops (for example) a DDR3 stick being forced into a DDR4 slot.

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                    • marioxb
                      PCHF Member
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bruce
                      that circle part of the PCI slot is called a notch.
                      it stops incompatible boards from being installed into just any available slot.

                      much like any of your memory slots.
                      the notch determines which way around the module goes, and stops (for example) a DDR3 stick being forced into a DDR4 slot.
                      OK, so it’s definitely 3.3v 32 bit. And the reason I need this over USB, I already have 3 SATA hard drives and an internal Blu Ray burner I’d like to have installed simultaneously. Would the power being daisy chained using the splitter like I posted cause issues with these devices not getting enough power or something?

                      I know they make external sata to usb devices, but would they work internally, or do they make internal sata to usb converters?

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                      • Bruce
                        PCHF Member
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 10697

                        #12
                        those PCI slots get their power from the motherboard, so no issues on that front.
                        not sure what you mean by using a splitter, if you are just plugging in two new PCI cards.

                        if you need to plug in extra hard drives and a DVD unit, external USB connected devices would be my preferred method.

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                        • PeterOz
                          PCHF Technical Response Team
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 4181

                          #13
                          the next part is finding a pci card to sata that works on 3.3v
                          I still wonder if you power supply will have enough juice.
                          Originally posted by marioxb
                          not getting enough power or something?
                          most likely
                          @phillpower2 it the power supply expert.
                          Hopefully he will have an idea

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                          • marioxb
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jan 2023
                            • 11

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bruce
                            those PCI slots get their power from the motherboard, so no issues on that front.
                            not sure what you mean by using a splitter, if you are just plugging in two new PCI cards.

                            if you need to plug in extra hard drives and a DVD unit, external USB connected devices would be my preferred method.
                            I was taking about splitting the power from the PSU to the SATA power cables from the media drives.

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                            • Bruce
                              PCHF Member
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 10697

                              #15
                              what is your current PSU make/model?

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