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  • waffen66
    PCHF Member
    • Sep 2021
    • 11

    #1

    pc suddenly very slow booting up.

    Dell 660 tower. Rebuilt 1 year ago with new ssd and doubled the ram. It has Intel i5. it was working fine. 10 to 15 second start up. Friday I was booting into bios to record the correct settings when the screen went black. Shut it down and rebooted it. When the Dell logo appeared the wheel started turning but it took 10 minutes and then the login screen finally appeared. It functions just as fast when I’m in it but still super slow start up. Before the bios boot try I had changed no software settings. I tested the ssd in another computer and it’s ok. Swapped the ram. No change. I checked the startup page and turned fast startup off and then tried with it back on. Nothing. Startup apps are delayed. I unplugged all unnecessary usb accessories. Nothing. Help!
  • Rustys
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7862

    #2
    So others can assist

    When was the last time you changes the CMOS battery?

    What about dust in the system?

    Can you access BIOS or is it still having issue there?

    Are the date and time correct in the BIOS and Windows?

    Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.



    [COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Include the make and model of the Power Supply Unit if this is a Desktop.

    To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

    In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

    In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

    Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.[/COLOR]

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    • waffen66
      PCHF Member
      • Sep 2021
      • 11

      #3
      I’ll be for away for a couple days. When I return I’ll run Speccy. For now I can tell you it’s dust free. New CMOS battery and I can access Bios and I’ll check the date. Thank you.

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      • Rustys
        PCHF Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 7862

        #4
        That is fine thank you for keeping us informed

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        • waffen66
          PCHF Member
          • Sep 2021
          • 11

          #5
          http://speccy.piriform.com/results/Z...u5feIER2p1tUiy Power supply is Dell and the model # is cn05ddv07016337q022da01 according to the QR scan. The model # is written in chinese on the printed lable on the power supply.

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          • waffen66
            PCHF Member
            • Sep 2021
            • 11

            #6
            At present it’s booting the way it’s supposed to. I unplugged the P5 connector on the data cable connected to the ssd and plugged the P3 connector in.

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            • waffen66
              PCHF Member
              • Sep 2021
              • 11

              #7
              Here’s where my computer skills end ( because I’m 65). I see in BIOS my Samsung ssd is not on the boot list. I know it’s supposed to be there. No message that it’s not being recognized. It’s just not there. The first boot is “windows boot manager” and as I said earlier it’s booting normally. For now. Btw this is a 2013 Dell 660.

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              • Rustys
                PCHF Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 7862

                #8
                Originally posted by waffen66
                The first boot is “windows boot manager” and as I said earlier it’s booting normally.
                With the release of UEFI BIOS that is normal due to the secure boot function.

                From the sounds of it you have it working could also be if putting the cable back it may still work fine. Some times reseating cables like that fixes the issue.

                Leave the thread open for a few days see how things get along.

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                • waffen66
                  PCHF Member
                  • Sep 2021
                  • 11

                  #9
                  I did send you the report from speccy with the url. Above I mentioned that my Samsung ssd doesnt show in the boot list.
                  I shouled be there. correct? 1st boot is “windows bootmanager”.So far it’s working but Something still isn’t right.

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                  • waffen66
                    PCHF Member
                    • Sep 2021
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rustys
                    What is not right.
                    Originally posted by Rustys
                    What is not right.
                    I was referring to the ssd not showing in boot. A few weeks ago my pc died so I transferred the ssd and ram into a working tower that had.It had an old hard drive so I swapped. It worked fine until last week when my current proplem occured. In the old tower bios listed the Samsung ssd as first boot, But if its normal for it to be windows boot manager as first boot that’s fine with me.

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                    • waffen66
                      PCHF Member
                      • Sep 2021
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Originally posted by waffen66
                      I was referring to the ssd not showing in boot. A few weeks ago my pc died so I transferred the ssd and ram into a working tower that had.It had an old hard drive so I swapped. It worked fine until last week when my current proplem occured. In the old tower bios listed the Samsung ssd as first boot, But if its normal for it to be windows boot manager as first boot that’s fine with me.
                      Rusty did you get the speccy snapshot I sent?

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                      • Rustys
                        PCHF Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7862

                        #12
                        Originally posted by waffen66
                        Rusty did you get the speccy snapshot I sent?
                        Yes the speccy report is in Post #5 thank you.
                        Originally posted by waffen66
                        I was referring to the ssd not showing in boot.
                        Is due to the UEFI BIOS feature called SECURE BOOT which is why you no longer see the drive.
                        No since they have done it that way have not like it ither.

                        Is the system still running normal?

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                        • waffen66
                          PCHF Member
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 11

                          #13
                          I havent had a chance to get back to my problem. It’s back again. Long delay booting after the Windows logo page. I’m chasing my tail because I’m not familar with this indepth problem. I can say nothing has worked to fix it except when I switched the data plugs on the SSD It was ok briefly. I’m going to go over things again because I’m lost. I upgraded the SSD and upped the ram to 8 gb several months ago. It worked fine until I tried to boot into bios last week. This was the first time I tried booting to bios since the upgrade. And now I see when I choose restart it doesn’t restart. Shutdown works perfectly. SSD worked fine when I tested it in another pc. Any other suggestions?

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                          • Rustys
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7862

                            #14
                            Lets preform a clean boot and see what happens here.



                            The other thing that we can try is safe mode and see if there is it reproduces.



                            Like you stated the system is from 2013 and there could be other things that are going on.

                            There thermal paste may need to be replaced.

                            You can also try 1 stick of ram in each on the slots to see hot the system preforms this will tell us if one of them is bad.

                            When you swapped the SSD to the new system you did preform a reinstall of Windows and drivers starting with the Chip Set?

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                            • waffen66
                              PCHF Member
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rustys
                              Lets preform a clean boot and see what happens here.



                              The other thing that we can try is safe mode and see if there is it reproduces.



                              Like you stated the system is from 2013 and there could be other things that are going on.

                              There thermal paste may need to be replaced.

                              You can also try 1 stick of ram in each on the slots to see hot the system preforms this will tell us if one of them is bad.

                              When you swapped the SSD to the new system you did preform a reinstall of Windows and drivers starting with the Chip Set?
                              Tried clean boot but as I said Restart in not restarting. It loads to the dell screen and goes no further. So Instead I tried shutdown but when it tries to start it still gets stuck at the Dell logo page with the loading wheel spinning. When it finally loads and I log in all the services are enabled. Probably because I couldn’t do a restaret and did a shutdown instead. Is that correct?

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