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  • Djan1999
    PCHF Member
    • Jan 2019
    • 15

    #1

    Need help with motherboard problem

    So yesterday I bought components for new build. Everything went fine I put everything yogethet and before putting in gpu and pluging it to monitor and all i tryed test boot to see if everything works and i get normal boot fans turn on and everything and all looked good so i turned it off with PSU button and proceded to manage cables in back panel. After I did that i tryed to boot again but nothing happaned. No beep, no fans spin or anything like its dead. So I tested PSU by connecting green and black wire to see if psu works and it seems to work fine so its not problem with PSU. Tryed taking whole motherboard apart and back together but still 0 signs of life. I get 0 lights or anything on motherboard like its dead or fried. PLEASE Help cus idk what is wrong!
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15206

    #2
    Welcome to PCHF Djan1999,

    Have you checked that the power on button on the case connection to the MB has not come loose/disconnected.

    Can you post the brand and model name or number for the case, MB, the RAM )including the amount) add on video card if one is used and the PSU (power supply unit) providing these details will enable us to better assist you.

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    • Djan1999
      PCHF Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 15

      #3
      Im using:
      B450M bazooka plus
      Hyper X predator 2x4gb 3000mhz
      Ryzen 5 2600
      Asus strix Gtx 1060 6gb
      Corsaie CX450 non modular

      I checked cables and everything even tryed turning it on with screwdriver on pins but 0 response no spinning fans no nothing

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15206

        #4
        Best couple of suggestions I can make would be first remove the MB and do a barebones set-up on a piece of cardboard (make sure it is larger than the MB) only connect the PSU and the keyboard.

        IF your MB doesn`t have a power test switch you will then need to short out the 2 power on pins on the MB header to get the PSU to activate, you can use a small flat bladed screwdriver or a paper clip bent into a U shape, this is perfectly safe if you do not touch anything else, the idea is to see if we can get a BIOS screen if you do you can then add one component at a time until you find the problem component, [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]you must power down and remove the power cord from the wall before adding another component, second suggestion try a known working PSU, it is not unknown for new components to be bad,[/COLOR]

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        • Djan1999
          PCHF Member
          • Jan 2019
          • 15

          #5
          Also forgot to say: When I have gpu in there and pluged on there is white led light whic indicates PSU is 100% not the problem. Also alredy tryed turning motherbord on with just CPU, 1 Ram stick and Ryzen stock cpu cooler but It showed no signs of life no spin on cooler or anything. And i did use the screwdriver trick on pins to turn mb on but nothing

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15206

            #6
            Try it with nothing in the MB other than the CPU, just in case the memory slot/s are shorting out, the MB must as was suggested be set-up on a piece of cardboard outside of the case, something inside of the case could have caused a short, the backplate/I/O plate, a trapped pt bared wire etc

            From your OP;
            Originally posted by Djan1999
            i turned it off with PSU button and proceded to manage cables in back panel.
            Before touching the MB etc did you disconnect the PSU from the wall socket, press the case power on button for 20 or so seconds to get rid of any residual charge in the system and ground yourself on the chassis or PSU to get rid of any static in your body, failure to do any one of these could have shorted out the MB,

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            • Djan1999
              PCHF Member
              • Jan 2019
              • 15

              #7
              No i left psu connected to the wall just turned it off on the button at the back of PSU.
              I just tested psu again with green to black wire and it works perfectly fine but when I connect it to MB and try to turn it on through MB pins I get no response. Im guessing I somehow fryed the MB? I also did test with just CPU and nothing else but 0 response no light on MB no nothing.

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              • Djan1999
                PCHF Member
                • Jan 2019
                • 15

                #8
                Does my warenty work on shorted out MB and also is there a way for me to fix it my self?

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15206

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Djan1999
                  I also did test with just CPU and nothing else but 0 response no light on MB no nothing.
                  Was this outside of the case on a large piece of cardboard, you should inspect the caps on the MB to see if any are blown or leaking, see info here

                  No warranty will cover any item of hardware that has been damaged by a short circuit, there is no fix I`m afraid

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                  • Djan1999
                    PCHF Member
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 15

                    #10
                    I checked those but all seem to be fine it just dosent get any power or something as it seems. Well il still try my luck with it and play dum as not knowing what happaned. Alredy ordered new MB (B450M Mortar). And yes I did do it on cardboard.

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15206

                      #11
                      Does sound like the board is dead then, the only other thing that could cause it is if the CPU was shorting out but this apparently ruled out by the fact that you did have the system up and dunning for a while.

                      I hope you have better luck with the replacement board and can I suggest that you do the suggested bare-bones set up before placing the replacement board in the chassis.

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                      • Djan1999
                        PCHF Member
                        • Jan 2019
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Is there a way to test if cpu is damaged or any visual signs? Just to make sure its MB but yes I did have it runing and all for like 30s before I turned it off. It is possible it short circuted on one off standoffs under the heatsink of bios chip so it could have shorted there maybe.

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                        • phillpower2
                          PCHF Administrator
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 15206

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Djan1999
                          Is there a way to test if cpu is damaged or any visual signs?
                          Only test is placing the CPU in a known good, compatible MB and checking the CPU for any bent or missing pins + if you used thermal compound and there was too much of that it can cause a short.
                          Originally posted by Djan1999
                          t is possible it short circuted on one off standoffs under the heatsink of bios chip so it could have shorted there maybe.
                          It would have shorted out and shut down before you had a chance to shut it down yourself so not likely.

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                          • Djan1999
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 15

                            #14
                            I used preapplied thermal compound on cooler so it defenetly wasnt that and also checked pins many times and they all seem to be there and as they should be so cpu is probably fine. I just rly wonder what caused MB to get shortouted because there are not visual damages on caps or anywhere at all.

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                            • phillpower2
                              PCHF Administrator
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 15206

                              #15
                              Any update for us?

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