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  • system
    PCHF Owner
    • Jan 2015
    • 7634

    #1

    Random Black Screening

    Iโ€™ve been having random black screening during gaming sessions, it primarily happens when im playing a semi demanding game, but even happens after a while of playing a non demanding game. What happens is my screen goes black, and my gpu fans immediately start going crazy. Temperature isnโ€™t an issue, my temps dont go over 60C, and iโ€™ve remounted it a few times. Iโ€™ve also remounted it and left the case on itโ€™s side, so sag causing it to lose connection to the pcei slot is out of the question. Iโ€™ve also done a HARD delete of my drivers using DDU, and freshly installed them, and that didnโ€™t fix my issue. Iโ€™m pretty lost at this point
    My specs are a ryzen 9 3900x, 32GB of ram, 2070 super(zotac mini) x570-e asus rog strix MB, and a 750W Gold+ PSU.
    Nothing is over heating, my cpu idles at 35~ and sits at 45~ during light gaming, 55~ during moderate gaming, and 60-65 during intense gaming. even a stress test using ryzen master doesnโ€™t push it over 75.
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8982

    #2
    Hello

    Give us you complete psu specโ€™s including model and number.

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    • system
      PCHF Owner
      • Jan 2015
      • 7634

      #3
      i donโ€™t know why people are so insistent on it being a psu problem, i donโ€™t KNOW what the psu is it doesnโ€™t say on the side and im not taking it out of the psu shroud. all i know is i didnโ€™t cheap out on one when i bought it 3-4 years ago.

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      • system
        PCHF Owner
        • Jan 2015
        • 7634

        #4
        Originally posted by veeg
        Hello

        Give us you complete psu specโ€™s including model and number.
        I found the model number on the side without taking it out, itโ€™s a 750W MWE Gold Plus. Model Number MPY-7501-AFAAG.

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        • veeg
          PCHF Director
          • Jul 2016
          • 8982

          #5
          Ok thanks.. Let me get more help.

          @Pyro

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          • Pyro
            PCHF Member
            • Jan 2019
            • 1189

            #6
            Originally posted by Ravenous
            i donโ€™t know why people are so insistent on it being a psu problem
            Because this is a very common sign of a failing PSU, yours appears to be fine but it is one of the most commonly overlooked components that we see.

            You reinstalled with DDU, did you do so completely offline? Windows will automatically look for drivers if the computer is hooked up to the internet, because of this a DDU wipe should be done completely disconnected.

            Go through DDU again as detailed below:
            Run DDU and download a fresh installer executable from here.

            An important note: You MUST download the driver executable and disconnect your computer from the internet before running DDU, otherwise Windows will automatically download drivers (which you donโ€™t want).

            Once you have ran DDU in safe mode, boot up into a normal Windows session (ensuring that you arenโ€™t connected to the internet for even a moment) and run the installer.

            Restart your computer from the power menu and see if this helps.

            On top of that, letโ€™s get as much system info as we can:
            Letโ€™s get some more information:

            Download and run the free version of speccy.

            Once you have ran speccy, publish the scan by going to: File > Publish Snapshot.

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            • system
              PCHF Owner
              • Jan 2015
              • 7634

              #7
              Originally posted by Pyro
              Because this is a very common sign of a failing PSU, yours appears to be fine but it is one of the most commonly overlooked components that we see.

              You reinstalled with DDU, did you do so completely offline? Windows will automatically look for drivers if the computer is hooked up to the internet, because of this a DDU wipe should be done completely disconnected.

              Go through DDU again as detailed below:

              On top of that, letโ€™s get as much system info as we can:
              according to DDU itself, i can have internet on, as long as i turn off windows updates, which i did before using DDU.

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              • system
                PCHF Owner
                • Jan 2015
                • 7634

                #8
                Originally posted by Pyro
                Because this is a very common sign of a failing PSU, yours appears to be fine but it is one of the most commonly overlooked components that we see.

                You reinstalled with DDU, did you do so completely offline? Windows will automatically look for drivers if the computer is hooked up to the internet, because of this a DDU wipe should be done completely disconnected.

                Go through DDU again as detailed below:

                On top of that, letโ€™s get as much system info as we can:
                hereโ€™s a link to the speccy. http://speccy.piriform.com/results/C...0RnjJxL7JPNCyO

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                • Pyro
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 1189

                  #9
                  You came here asking for advice and thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m offering- these are methods I have found to work best.

                  Iโ€™ll let some of the other helpers chime in, good luck.

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                  • system
                    PCHF Owner
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 7634

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pyro
                    You came here asking for advice and thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m offering- these are methods I have found to work best.

                    Iโ€™ll let some of the other helpers chime in, good luck.
                    โ€ฆ what? I literally gave you the info you asked for I havenโ€™t declined any advice, other than things Iโ€™ve already done.

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                    • system
                      PCHF Owner
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 7634

                      #11
                      further update, Iโ€™m able to play games on my PS2 emulator so that further makes me think itโ€™s a GPU issue, or maybe a psu to GPU connection issue.

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                      • Bruce
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 10702

                        #12
                        I think @Pyro is suggesting your replies when volunteers have requested info.

                        2 examples
                        give us your PSU specs, you replied
                        i donโ€™t know why people are so insistent on it being a psu problem,

                        and, when you installed DDU, was the PC offline?, you responded
                        according to DDU itself, i can have internet on

                        and yes, you have given all advise that has been requested, but have you tried doing the options as suggested?

                        as to the PSU, NVidia recommends min of 650, other sites like Lumion recommend more.
                        so while your 750w should be fine, it is skating at the edges.

                        if your issue is only happening during games (demanding or not), then I would be agreeing with you, itโ€™s most likely the GPU but could also be the PSU.
                        are either component under warranty still?

                        I would also try uninstalling Avira and seeing if that helps. it can always be re-added later.
                        another long shot - use an ethernet connection rather than wireless. yes - there should be no connection (no pun intended), but at this stage, letโ€™s try the dumb stuff before going out and replacing parts.

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                        • Rustys
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7862

                          #13
                          Do you still need assistance

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                          • Rustys
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7862

                            #14
                            Abandoned thread closed.

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                            • system
                              PCHF Owner
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 7634

                              #15
                              This is a repost of an issue Iโ€™m having because the one i had up before was closed without a solution fixing things. I was only inactive for less than a week.

                              Iโ€™ve been having random black screening during gaming sessions, it primarily happens when im playing a semi demanding game, but even happens after a while of playing a non demanding game. What happens is my screen goes black, and my gpu fans immediately start going crazy. Temperature isnโ€™t an issue, my temps dont go over 60C, and iโ€™ve remounted it a few times. Iโ€™ve also remounted it and left the case on itโ€™s side, so sag causing it to lose connection to the pcei slot is out of the question. Iโ€™ve also done a HARD delete of my drivers using DDU, and freshly installed them, and that didnโ€™t fix my issue. Iโ€™m pretty lost at this point
                              My specs are a ryzen 9 3900x, 32GB of ram, 2070 super(zotac mini) x570-e asus rog strix MB, and a 750W Gold+ PSU.
                              Nothing is over heating, my cpu idles at 35~ and sits at 45~ during light gaming, 55~ during moderate gaming, and 60-65 during intense gaming. even a stress test using ryzen master doesnโ€™t push it over 75.

                              To add on to this now, Iโ€™m installing an update to get it to windows 11, but Iโ€™m fairly certain it has nothing to do with what OS Iโ€™m using as W10 is still thoroughly supported. I saw someone on the post before suggest uninstalling avira.. why? itโ€™s an antivirus software, why would uninstalling that be a good idea 1st of all, and 2nd why would it fix what seems to be a graphic issue? the only reason I even think it might be the PSU instead of the GPU, is because maybe the cable from the 2 is causing issues.

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