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  • katastrophik9
    PCHF Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 4

    #1

    New PC build issue (freezing)

    Just built a brand new comp the other day. Everything works fine except that i get random freezing. It not a complete freeze either. It kind of takes its time once it starts. I am able to use whatever programs i have opened at the time but with limited use. I am not able to restart or open other programs. Eventually it freezes completely. any idea what that could be?

    PC Specs:
    Asus Strix B550-F
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    MSI 1070
    Nzxt 63 240MM AIO
    G. Skill c16 3600 RAM
    Samsung 970 Evo plus 1TB
    EVGA 850 PSU
    Fractal Define 7 Case
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15209

    #2
    Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

    To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

    In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

    In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

    Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

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    • katastrophik9
      PCHF Member
      • Dec 2020
      • 4

      #3
      OK here it is:

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15209

        #4
        What are the programs that are freezing, are they online programs etc.

        What is the exact model of PSU that you have, how old is it and likewise how old is the GPU

        Some strange goings on according to Speccy and especially with the CPU and Windows updates :unsure:

        Operating System
        Windows 10 Home 64-bit
        Computer type: Desktop
        Installation Date: 2020-12-03 12:21:15 AM

        After installing Windows, did you then install the drivers for the MB and starting with the chipset drivers first, these drivers need to be installed from the disk provided with the MB or direct from here

        Antivirus
        Total AV
        Antivirus: Enabled
        Virus Signature Database: Up to date
        Windows Defender
        Antivirus: Disabled
        Virus Signature Database: Up to date

        Running: Windows Defender Firewall

        Is Total AV the free or paid for version, ether way it is not very good and you would have been better sticking with Windows Defender, it also looks like it could be conflicting with Windows own Firewall.

        Memory
        Type: Unknown
        Size: 32768 MBytes
        Channels #: Dual
        DRAM Frequency: 1064.5 MHz This needs to read as 1600MHz in Speccy.

        Your RAM is running too slow for the CPU, manually set it to run at 3200MHz in the BIOS, you could try enabling XMP but if the RAM gets clocked to 3600MHz it could be too much the other way.

        Not Installed
        2020-12-06 2020-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems B[/B]
        Installation Status: In Progress
        Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For a complete
        listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the
        associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information.
        After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
        2020-12-03 Feature update to Windows 10, version 20H2
        Installation Status: In Progress
        Install the latest update for Windows 10: Windows 10, version
        20H2.
        2020-12-03 2020-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems B[/B]
        Installation Status: Canceled
        Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For a complete
        listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the
        associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information.
        After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

        The above show that Windows is having problems with updating.

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        • katastrophik9
          PCHF Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 4

          #5
          Originally posted by phillpower2
          What are the programs that are freezing, are they online programs etc.

          What is the exact model of PSU that you have, how old is it and likewise how old is the GPU

          Some strange goings on according to Speccy and especially with the CPU and Windows updates :unsure:

          Operating System
          Windows 10 Home 64-bit
          Computer type: Desktop
          Installation Date: 2020-12-03 12:21:15 AM

          After installing Windows, did you then install the drivers for the MB and starting with the chipset drivers first, these drivers need to be installed from the disk provided with the MB or direct from here

          Antivirus
          Total AV
          Antivirus: Enabled
          Virus Signature Database: Up to date
          Windows Defender
          Antivirus: Disabled
          Virus Signature Database: Up to date

          Running: Windows Defender Firewall

          Is Total AV the free or paid for version, ether way it is not very good and you would have been better sticking with Windows Defender, it also looks like it could be conflicting with Windows own Firewall.

          Memory
          Type: Unknown
          Size: 32768 MBytes
          Channels #: Dual
          DRAM Frequency: 1064.5 MHz This needs to read as 1600MHz in Speccy.

          Your RAM is running too slow for the CPU, manually set it to run at 3200MHz in the BIOS, you could try enabling XMP but if the RAM gets clocked to 3600MHz it could be too much the other way.

          Not Installed
          2020-12-06 2020-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems B[/B]
          Installation Status: In Progress
          Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For a complete
          listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the
          associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information.
          After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
          2020-12-03 Feature update to Windows 10, version 20H2
          Installation Status: In Progress
          Install the latest update for Windows 10: Windows 10, version
          20H2.
          2020-12-03 2020-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems B[/B]
          Installation Status: Canceled
          Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For a complete
          listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the
          associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information.
          After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

          The above show that Windows is having problems with updating.
          It doesn’t matter what is open when its freezes. Literally anything I have open at the time will freeze at some point. I’ve even tried just leaving windows open and nothing else. Eventually still freezes

          My PSU is an EVGA 850 B5

          The Motherboard driver was installed by Memory Express for me. When i bought it from them, they said it needed an update to be able to support my 5900x.

          Total AV Its the paid version. I have no idea why i bought it? It was a deal one day i think? Do you think i should just disable it and use windows defender? what other Anti virus would you recommend instead?

          I set my Ram to 3200 in BIOS. Ill see if that does anything. Before i did a reinstall of windows the first time, i do know i had them set to 3600 and it was still doing the freezing thing.

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15209

            #6
            Most likely not a PSU issue then. (Information only) please note that while is sounds great to have an 850W PSU it would have been more appropriate for your spec of build to have opted for a minimum of a Gold efficiency rated PSU that was covered by at least a seven year warranty but preferably one covered for ten, you having a second screen hooked up makes this even more important.
            Originally posted by katastrophik9
            The Motherboard driver was installed by Memory Express for me. When i bought it from them, they said it needed an update to be able to support my 5900x
            Sorry but need to query this:

            Who assembled the computer, this includes inserting the CPU into the socket and fitting the CPU cooler etc.

            Who installed Windows.

            We will come back to the other points in your reply #5 once we have addressed the two questions above.

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            • katastrophik9
              PCHF Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 4

              #7
              i built the whole thing. They just installed a bios update for me when i purchased everything. So in short i did the whole install myself

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15209

                #8
                Why I had to ask;
                Originally posted by katastrophik9
                The Motherboard driver was installed by Memory Express for me. When i bought it from them, they said it needed an update to be able to support my 5900x.
                You mentioned MB driver instead of BIOS update + the version of BIOS in Speccy is months old and therefore was not the one that should have been used, Version 1202 should have been used and even this has been superseded now by Version 1401 which among its fixes is β€œNew CPU support” download from here

                Calling it a day now as I have an early start.

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15209

                  #9
                  Thread closed due to lack of feedback from the OP.

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