Laptop Update

[veeg]

Any updates for us?

 

[Antoine]

I was the last post in this thread. Im the one waiting for an update (reply) lol

 

[plodr]

One uses thermal pads or paste - not both. Thermal paste is better but I suspect companies that build computers find it much easier to slap a thermal pad on then worry about the amount of paste to put on.

 

[veeg]

Any updates for us?

 

[Antoine]

ok so @Antman told me to check the new thermal paste I had set on the CPU to see how it looks because the new idle temps I was getting were "better" but still too high for idle, so I did so and theres a pic attacked. I also finally got around to changing the thermal paste on my GPU and while I have n idea how it looks now (i know its GPU is square instead of rectangle like my CPU though so I was able to use the pea sized paste in the center method just fine on that component... how it turned out is a different story)

Im also including screenshots of both Speedfan and HWMonitor temps when idle as well as Speedfan and Hwmonitor temps when gaming. Also if I recall correctly when gaming my GPU temps was like 75c then as I stood there for maybe 5 mins tops it slowly climbed 1 degree at a time to 90 before I got the screenshot and exited the game... umm is that a bad thing? because did Antman not say the shut off temp for my GPU is 92? if it went all the way to 90 with new thermal paste whos to say it wouldnt have went to 92 eventually? (i was also playing on Max (PC) settings as I have the specs needed to do so). Soo should I just like give up on ever gaming on my laptop again lol? (also why when Idle speedfan says my GPU temp is 0C but Hwmonitor says its 44c-50c?

 

[veeg]

If any thermal paste has oozed out after you attach the heat sink,etc make sure to wipe that up, Typically the paste should be as thin as a credit card or thinner. To me it sounds like there is not enough air moving thru your laptop,so a cooling mat/pad may be the answer for those temps.

 

[Antoine]

It looks as if theres pads on teh GPU heatsink already

 

[Antman]

It looks as if theres pads on teh GPU heatsink already

Clean all surfaces prior to application of thermal compound. Adding compound to a pad is not valid and will cause high temps.

... it sounds like there is not enough air moving thru your laptop,so a cooling mat/pad may be the answer for those temps.

A cooling pad is always a plus, but the evidence presented supports that air flow is at spec. As indicated earlier, and supported by OP report, there may be a failed heat pipe on the GPU cooler assembly - BUT latest OP report may indicate improper application of thermal compound (applied to old pad).

Clean the GPU cooling assembly thoroughly and re-apply thermal compound. Test.

Also note: Speedfan does not work on your laptop.

 

[Antman]

https://pchelpforum.net/t/laptop-update.20678/#post-39290

 

[Antoine]

Clean all surfaces prior to application of thermal compound. Adding compound to a pad is not valid and will cause high temps.

A cooling pad is always a plus, but the evidence presented supports that air flow is at spec. As indicated earlier, and supported by OP report, there may be a failed heat pipe on the GPU cooler assembly - BUT latest OP report may indicate improper application of thermal compound (applied to old pad).

Clean the GPU cooling assembly thoroughly and re-apply thermal compound. Test.

Also note: Speedfan does not work on your laptop.

Theres no compound added to pads, the area you put the thermal compound on in the GPU is clean and free or pads (and i reapplied paste as sated in previous post) the items I think are "thermal pads" are if you look at the graphics card pic ive uploaded. the HUGE square GPU part with the silver, black then gold edge has no thermal pad, I applied the paste onto the silver part using the dot method. Now note the row of 4 black squares right above the GPU and 4 more to its right. There are 8 small square pad things stuck to the bottom of the heatsink that are all aligned in a way that theyd be above/on to of the 4 black squares above and two the right of the silver GPU. There are no pads on the silver GPU itself, are those thermal pads and if Im supposed to rep[lace those then am I supopsed to put thermal paste on the small black squares too?

Also when and ow did we determine speedfan doesnt work on my laptop?

 

[Antman]

Ignore all reference to pads. Earlier in the thread you asked about thermal pads vs thermal compound. This introduced a confusion in terminology. The black pads in your image are insulators and are not part of the cooling system.

If this is true -
New thermal compound is applied to GPU, and
GPU fan is clean and operational at spec, and
GPU cooling assembly is clean and unobstructed, and
GPU temps approach 95C,

THEN
GPU cooling assembly has likely failed.
See https://pchelpforum.net/t/laptop-update.20678/#post-39290

 

[Antman]

"We" should see that Speedfan is reporting inconsistent data. You have not reported that Speedfan was configured in accordance with Speefan's published usage instructions. You will not find the P157SM motherboard on Speedfan's supported motherboard list, nor will you find the MTDN7002ZHS6R sensor on Speedfan's supported chip list.

http://www.almico.com/forumsensors.php

See appendix B-14
https://www.manualslib.com/download/826868/Clevo-P170sm.html

 

[Antoine]

So just to be sure youre saying if I reapplied the thermal paste and it was done right. Then there is NO REASON AT ALL why my GPU gets up to 90c regardless to what game Im playing and how high its setting are, 90c is never normal in ANY circumstance, correct?

If so then the ONLY reason I could be getting those temps is the cooling assembly has failed? If so then how do I go about replacing or fixing that? 9i.e what would I need for my laptop model/type, where would I find it etc etc). I mean surely replacing that s even easier than the fan right?

 

[Antman]

90c is never normal in ANY circumstance, correct?

It is normal in a circumstance where cooling has failed. It is inside the design specification, but at the upper margin.

The causes of high temperature readings include, among others, a failed thermistor (motherboard component), improperly secured cooling assembly, et cetera. Therefore, I cannot warrant the ONLY cause - only the most likely based on the evidence presented.

Availability and pricing varies by market.
$120 to $150 US here.
$16 US here, includes fan

 

[Antoine]

well I have a 17.3'' Clevo P170SM the ebay link shows a CLEVO P150SM 15.6" GPU FAN W/ HEATSINK

that being said is it compatible with my laptop?

 

[Antman]

I am not in Sales. The point of providing the links was to show that you should shop wisely. I usually pay $8 to $15 for this component.

Identify your part number and search accordingly.

 

[Antoine]

I am not in Sales. The point of providing the links was to show that you should shop wisely. I usually pay $8 to $15 for this component.

Identify your part number and search accordingly.

Oh I already know some pp over charge horribly (infact that first link), but the same could be said about low prices too then it makes you think "ummm what wrong with it?" But I guess ill have to look into it myself

 

[Antman]

Salvaged electronics are sold by the pallet load. A pallet of 30 to 50 laptops costs me about $8 to $10 per laptop (I only buy product originally released within 5 years recent). Any single component sold between $15 to $20 pays for the laptop and the labor. Any other component sold is bread and butter. These components are known as 'pulls'. This type of sourcing is what you are looking at in most online deals.

A CPU or GPU cooling assembly, with or without fan, is well priced at $15 to $20. Fair market value. Only purchase from vendors who offer a reasonable warranty, typically 30 days.

Personal preference: I don't use the old fans. Product life is probably expired.

 

[phillpower2]

Any update Antoine?

 

[phillpower2]

Any update for us Antoine? If unreplied to within 48hrs this thread will be closed.