Solved I just finished building a computer, but the screen won't stay on for more than ten seconds

[Jaxson Buckman]

After I turn on the computer, it goes to the bios, then after about 5-10 seconds it goes black, then about a minute later it comes back, rinse and repeat

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[phillpower2]

You say that you just finished building the computer but what we are seeing in the video is a Dell desktop PC and screen.

What exactly has been done and what are the brand an model name or number of all of the parts used.

Is there a storage device that already has Windows from another PC in this computer.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

You say that you just finished building the computer but what we are seeing in the video is a Dell desktop PC and screen.

What exactly has been done and what are the brand an model name or number of all of the parts used.

Is there a storage device that already has Windows from another PC in this computer.

The computer is pretty much a hodgepodge of a lot of different parts I've either bought, or've got it second hand, the case, hard drive, 1 of the cd drives, and psu were old parts from my great grandpa's computer, the ram cards, the other cd drive, and processor I got from one of my friend's brothers (thank *** for that because those parts were expensive, except the cd drive), and the motherboard and gpu I bought myself

Here are the parts:
Motherboard: MAG B550M BAZOOKA
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 (used refurbished)
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700X
RAM: 2 8GB T-Force Delta
PSU: Apevia ATX-BT700W
Hard Drive: Seagate 1TB

Right now, I'm installing the newest BIOS on it because that might be the problem

Actually, yes, the hard drive has Windows on it, never formatted, is that a problem?

 

[phillpower2]

Addressing just the most obvious issue here.

Actually, yes, the hard drive has Windows on it, never formatted, is that a problem?

Major problem, you cannot take a boot drive from one computer and put it into another and expect it to work, Windows will try loading the drivers for the previous MB and as you have found you get nothing but trouble.

You need to clean install Windows and the chipset drivers for the new MB, see my canned info below;

Once Windows has been clean installed you must then install first the MBs chipset drivers, then the storage/SATA drivers and third the graphics drivers, the drivers can either come from a disk provided by the motherboard manufacturer or downloaded from their site and saved to a flash drive etc, this is a must and Windows should not be allowed to check for updates before it has been done as more often than not Windows installs the wrong drivers or in the incorrect order and this can cause all sorts of problems.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

Addressing just the most obvious issue here.



Major problem, you cannot take a boot drive from one computer and put it into another and expect it to work, Windows will try loading the drivers for the previous MB and as you have found you get nothing but trouble.

You need to clean install Windows and the chipset drivers for the new MB, see my canned info below;

What do you mean by addressing is the issue?

Ah ****, I guess I shouldn't've expected it to just work, and actually the video I sent was the last time it ever went to the menu, after that it never did, even with the hard drive taken out, it doesn't go to the menu, and I'm pretty sure that even if I get an adapter to plug my hard drive into my other computer and format it, its still going to do the same thing, I think I screwed up, and now all of the drivers are effed up

 

[phillpower2]

Addressing just the most obvious issue here.

What do you mean by addressing is the issue?

The root cause of the issue as was also explained in my reply #4 along with the remedial action that you need to take.

you cannot take a boot drive from one computer and put it into another and expect it to work, Windows will try loading the drivers for the previous MB and as you have found you get nothing but trouble.

You need to clean install Windows and the chipset drivers for the new MB, see my canned info below;

Once Windows has been clean installed you must then install first the MBs chipset drivers, then the storage/SATA drivers and third the graphics drivers, the drivers can either come from a disk provided by the motherboard manufacturer or downloaded from their site and saved to a flash drive etc, this is a must and Windows should not be allowed to check for updates before it has been done as more often than not Windows installs the wrong drivers or in the incorrect order and this can cause all sorts of problems.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

The root cause of the issue as was also explained in my reply #4 along with the remedial action that you need to take.

I cant install Windows, as said earlier, it will no longer go to the menu, for the past 3 days I've tried to do that, only the MAG screen pops up, when it does I pressed F11 to go to the boot menu and to boot off of my usb drive to download windows 10, but after I do that, no video signal will show up and no matter how many times I turn it off and on again, still no video signal, I've found if I leave it off and unplugged overnight and come back to it and boot it up again, back to normal, I boot off the USB drive, and no signal again

I'm lost

 

[phillpower2]

Right now, I'm installing the newest BIOS on it because that might be the problem

Actually, yes, the hard drive has Windows on it, never formatted, is that a problem?

Sorry but was working off the information above from your reply #3, what you have explained now suggests not a driver issue as that would not stop you from getting a BIOS screen, what would stop you getting a BIOS screen would be the BIOS update you did being bad

Bad idea using custom parts inside a Dell case as they don`t tend to be wired the same, front panel header and USB ports etc, suggest a bare bones set up outside of the case, the steps for this can be provided but something that needs clarifying first;

I've found if I leave it off and unplugged overnight and come back to it and boot it up again, back to normal,

Can you explain what exactly you mean by this, it is confusing as a computer has not successfully booted unless you end up in a fully working Windows or other OS.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

Sorry but was working off the information above from your reply #3, what you have explained now suggests not a driver issue as that would not stop you from getting a BIOS screen, what would stop you getting a BIOS screen would be the BIOS update you did being bad

Bad idea using custom parts inside a Dell case as they don`t tend to be wired the same, front panel header and USB ports etc, suggest a bare bones set up outside of the case, the steps for this can be provided but something that needs clarifying first;



Can you explain what exactly you mean by this, it is confusing as a computer has not successfully booted unless you end up in a fully working Windows or other

So after doing a bare bones settup, here's what happened:

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And as for trying to boot off of the usb drive, I think I've found the problem:

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[phillpower2]

Without any video/s, can you tell us where you are up to with this, do you still need help.

To avoid anyone else that reads this thread potentially getting confused;

SD Card

USB flashdrive

Installing from an SD card is not the same as installing from a USB device and calling both devices a USB drive is misleading.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

Without any video/s, can you tell us where you are up to with this, do you still need help.

To avoid anyone else that reads this thread potentially getting confused;

SD Card

USB flashdrive

Installing from an SD card is not the same as installing from a USB device and calling both devices a USB drive is misleading.

Well, the barebones setup works and the screen turns on, but where do I go from here? And what has it proved that something was the problem? (I think I should have said that in reply #9, SORRY!!!!) The SD Card was a separate problem, and I should've worded it like so. Why is the screen shutting off after 10 or so seconds, is it because it just does that, or is there something else thats causing it?

I thought that since they both have the exFAT file system, it wouldn't matter, and saying that it was a USB drive was easier than saying is was a usb drive with an sd card adapter, so apologies

What's the next step?

 

[phillpower2]

No need for any apology but keep in mind that we rely on those asking for help to provide us with accurate information.

A simple looking device like a USB thumbdrive still has to be treated with respect and especially one that is intended to be used to install Windows from, the USB thumbdrive has to be prepared to accept the ISO then the BIOS on the MB has to be changed to be able to recognise the ISO on the USB thumbdrive and last but not least the USB thumbdrive must be inserted into a black USB 2.0 port and not one of the faster blue or red USB 3.0/3.1 ports, this because not all MBs enable the USB 3.0 by default in the BIOS meaning that the USB 3.0 ports will not work until Windows has loaded, this is also why when using a USB type keyboard they should likewise always be connected to a black USB 2.0 port.

As to the next step, can you let us know what happens if you just leave the barebones set up sitting in the BIOS, if that also goes blank after ten seconds it would normally suggest serious hardware failure, if the BIOS screen stay on, there is a good chance we can move on

Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed,, thanks.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

Yep, it does that, what hardware failure would that imply to

After putting the sd card into a usb 2 slot, it did something... interesting, a windows logo popped up for a second, then it disappeared and does what it the bios usually does

 

[phillpower2]

Does what, turn off after ten seconds or stay on while in the BIOS.

Best thing that you can do atm is download a fresh ISO to a USB thumbdrive and get rid of the SD card, adapters of any sort are never a good idea as they tend to introduce problems were there are none.

ISO from here

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

Yep, the bios turns off after 10 seconds

 

[phillpower2]

Sorry ,should have asked if you have the SD/USB adapter in when the BIOS screen turns off.

If the adapter is not plugged in it suggests one of three things, the previous BIOS update was bad, something is shorting out or the CPU is bad/overheating.

If the adapter is plugged in when the BIOS screen turns off, remove the adapter, restart to access the BIOS and see if the behaviour changes.


Got to head out for a couple of hours but will check back later.

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

It did it even before I even tried to install Windows and before I updated the bios, so it's down to either shorted motherboard or overheating/bad CPU, the motherboard was brand new, so it's most likely the CPU as it was from an old and no longer used gaming pc, and the condition of it was unknown, I'm not sure if it's over heating, and I'm pretty sure I applied the thermal paste correctly, and I'm not sure why it would be overheating, but I still can't rule overheating out either

If overheating, it may be fixable, but if the CPU is bad, I will need to get a new one, how would I test if it were bad?

 

[PeterOz]

Can i ask 1 question
is the cpu fan working

 

[phillpower2]

Have to hold my hands up here and admit to misreading/misunderstanding what has been happening right from the outset, example;

Right now, I'm installing the newest BIOS on it because that might be the problem

I pressed F11 to go to the boot menu and to boot off of my usb drive to download windows 10, but after I do that, no video signal will show up

Well, the barebones setup works and the screen turns on, but where do I go from here?

Having again read the thread from the OP I can see now that this hodgepodge as you put it has in fact never worked and that you did not mean that you got the no signal message once Windows had been installed, if this latest assessment is accurate then you will have your answer below;

The CPU is most likely ok but it is never going to work in the MAG B550M BAZOOKA and there is one very good reason why not, the CPU is only a second gen Ryzen 7 whereas the MAG B550M BAZOOKA is only compatible with third gen Ryzen CPUs onwards, you can check/confirm this here

 

[Jaxson Buckman]

Can i ask 1 question
is the cpu fan working

Yep