Hi Bruce, I took 8 pictures two days ago with the cell phone. That evening when I got home I connected my phone to my computer, like I had done many times in the last several years. Then when I checked in File manager, I could see the 8 pictures on my computer. Just for the heck of it, I checked Icloud. The pictures were NOT there yet. I checked back a few hours later, and they were on Icloud, but I could not view them on my computer anymore. It seems like after they they uploaded to Icloud, I can no longer view them on my computer. Now, last evening I took another 6 pictures at an event we were at. I just connected my phone to the computer about 15 minutes ago. I can see the pictures in File manager. They are not yet on Icloud. I will bet in a few hours they will be on Icloud, and I will not see them on Fie manager. So I guess after the pictures are uploaded to Icloud, I can not see them in File manager anymore as I believe someone had mentioned a while back. BUT, if I tap the photo icon on my phone, I can see there are over eight hundred pictures on the phone. And I can scroll around to see them. I guess if I want several pictures off my phone at one time, I will have to get them soon after I take them, or get them one at a time from Icloud. Not a big deal I guess. I am still convinced there is a setting messed up on my phone., because when I connect the wife's phone to my computer I can see thousands of pictures even after they were uploaded to Icloud. I will be in the market for a new phone soon, since mine is the old SE maybe then the problem will go away. Thanks for all your help. Mike