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  • Clive744
    PCHF Member
    • May 2021
    • 54

    #1

    Software Installation Help Needed

    Hi Guys

    I will be taking delivery of an Acer Aspire laptop which will come with Microsoft Windows 11 Home installed.

    Some time ago I purchased Microsoft Windows 11 Pro + Office 2021 for 3 machines and I can’t for the life of me remember how many machines it’s been used on but was thinking about uninstalling Windows 11 Home and putting the Professional on instead.

    If by chance it’s been installed 3 times already, I would have to reinstall the Home Edition.
    Years ago, laptops and PCs use to come with an installation disk along with a key code which had to be typed in during the installation process.
    I believe these days software is downloaded from the internet and installed ie. no need for CDs.

    I’ve asked the seller of the laptop how I would go about re-installing MS Home should MS Pro not work and was told the Windows product key is embedded in the laptop’s BIOS chip at the factory.
    This means if I ever need to reinstall Windows, the key will be automatically detected and applied during the installation process - there’s no need to manually enter it.
    If I ever do need to reinstall, I can simply download the official Windows installation media from Microsoft’s website and follow the steps to create a bootable USB drive. (Their words).

    Question: How do you create a bootable USB drive and how does it work once its been pushed in the hole?

    It’s all a big learning curve for me because I know when the laptop comes all it will have on it is Windows 11 Home, no office, no internet so I’ve got the lot to learn.
    I don’t even know the best order of installing things, plus if I wanted to download FireFox, how would I go about doing it when there will be no internet browser on the machine?

    I’m just asking these questions before the laptop arrives so I’ve got some idea on what I should be doing.
    Also how do I go about formatting the old laptop before I get rid of it?

    I guess that’s the trouble when you come from the era when the nearest thing you could get for a calculator was a slide rule .

    My thanks to anyone who can spare the time and has the patience to educate me.

    Clive
  • Bruce
    PCHF Moderator
    • Oct 2017
    • 10702

    #2
    To make a bootable Windows USB stick, use the Windows Media Creation Tool, available from here; Download Windows 11

    The new laptop will already have Windows installed, so Microsoft’s Edge browser will be available for you to use to surf the web.

    Where did you purchase the Windows and Office products from?
    Did they come with a Product Key for Office and another for Windows?
    What did you pay for them?

    Why do you need the Pro version?
    It’s only main advantage is the ability to join a Domain network, create virtual machines, and BitLocker - and none of them are usually required for most users.

    One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro.

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    • Bruce
      PCHF Moderator
      • Oct 2017
      • 10702

      #3
      To make a bootable Windows USB stick, use the Windows Media Creation Tool, available from here; Download Windows 11

      The new laptop will already have Windows installed, so Microsoft’s Edge browser will be available for you to use to surf the web.

      Where did you purchase the Windows and Office products from?
      Did they come with a Product Key for Office and another for Windows?
      What did you pay for them?

      Why do you need the Pro version?
      It’s only main advantage is the ability to join a Domain network, create virtual machines, and BitLocker - and none of them are usually required for most users.

      One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro.

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      • Clive744
        PCHF Member
        • May 2021
        • 54

        #4
        Originally posted by Bruce
        To make a bootable Windows USB stick, use the Windows Media Creation Tool, available from here; Download Windows 11

        The new laptop will already have Windows installed, so Microsoft’s Edge browser will be available for you to use to surf the web.

        Where did you purchase the Windows and Office products from?
        Did they come with a Product Key for Office and another for Windows?
        What did you pay for them?

        Why do you need the Pro version?
        It’s only main advantage is the ability to join a Domain network, create virtual machines, and BitLocker - and none of them are usually required for most users.

        One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro.
        Hello again Bruce

        Thank you for your reply,

        I bought Windows and Office from shop.winandoffice.com and yes both came with a product key and they worked on the machines they were installed on, no issues.

        I’ve been use to using Office Pro which is on my PC so would like to keep it the same on the laptop.

        You say, One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro, I will give this a go as soon as the laptop arrives.

        Regarding making a bootable Windows USB stick, would it still be a good idea for me to do that and what size stick would I need?

        Am I correct in assuming the download for creating the stick would be as shown in the screen shot?

        Thank you

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        • Clive744
          PCHF Member
          • May 2021
          • 54

          #5
          Originally posted by Bruce
          To make a bootable Windows USB stick, use the Windows Media Creation Tool, available from here; Download Windows 11

          The new laptop will already have Windows installed, so Microsoft’s Edge browser will be available for you to use to surf the web.

          Where did you purchase the Windows and Office products from?
          Did they come with a Product Key for Office and another for Windows?
          What did you pay for them?

          Why do you need the Pro version?
          It’s only main advantage is the ability to join a Domain network, create virtual machines, and BitLocker - and none of them are usually required for most users.

          One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro.
          Hello again Bruce

          Thank you for your reply,

          I bought Windows and Office from shop.winandoffice.com and yes both came with a product key and they worked on the machines they were installed on, no issues.

          I’ve been use to using Office Pro which is on my PC so would like to keep it the same on the laptop.

          You say, One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro, I will give this a go as soon as the laptop arrives.

          Regarding making a bootable Windows USB stick, would it still be a good idea for me to do that and what size stick would I need?

          Am I correct in assuming the download for creating the stick would be as shown in the screen shot?

          Thank you

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Moderator
            • Oct 2017
            • 10702

            #6
            To make a bootable Windows USB stick, it needs to be at least 8GB.
            Yes, click that Download buttion to get the tool, run that tool to create a bootable USB stick.

            Honestly, unless you need the extra things that Win Pro gives you, I’d stick to Home.
            As to Office Pro, that is much easier to install/uninstall, so try one of those Keys you purchased - it will either allow you or it won’t. (y)

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            • Bruce
              PCHF Moderator
              • Oct 2017
              • 10702

              #7
              To make a bootable Windows USB stick, it needs to be at least 8GB.
              Yes, click that Download buttion to get the tool, run that tool to create a bootable USB stick.

              Honestly, unless you need the extra things that Win Pro gives you, I’d stick to Home.
              As to Office Pro, that is much easier to install/uninstall, so try one of those Keys you purchased - it will either allow you or it won’t. (y)

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              • PeterOz
                PCHF Technical Response Team
                • Mar 2021
                • 4191

                #8
                Do you sign into your current Windows 11 with a Microsoft account?
                If yes then you can login now via the web into your Microsoft account and it will tell
                you how many computers you have that are running Windows 11.

                I would upgrade the way Bruce suggested by entering the product key.
                If you upgrade this way you will have less hassle.

                If you use the USB creation tool then you are going to have to make sure you have all the drivers for your laptop
                before going on the internet.

                Also downloading the tool for future use is a waste of time as the ISO is changed when there are new releases.
                You download and use only when needed.

                I prefer to use Windows Pro - makes life easier.

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                • PeterOz
                  PCHF Technical Response Team
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 4191

                  #9
                  Do you sign into your current Windows 11 with a Microsoft account?
                  If yes then you can login now via the web into your Microsoft account and it will tell
                  you how many computers you have that are running Windows 11.

                  I would upgrade the way Bruce suggested by entering the product key.
                  If you upgrade this way you will have less hassle.

                  If you use the USB creation tool then you are going to have to make sure you have all the drivers for your laptop
                  before going on the internet.

                  Also downloading the tool for future use is a waste of time as the ISO is changed when there are new releases.
                  You download and use only when needed.

                  I prefer to use Windows Pro - makes life easier.

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                  • Clive744
                    PCHF Member
                    • May 2021
                    • 54

                    #10
                    Hi Peter

                    No, I don’t sign in, I just start my computer up in the normal way and a screen appears saying sign in, so I just click on the sign in button and my desktop opens with all my shortcuts.

                    Can I just run this by both you and Bruce, When the new laptop arrives it will have Windows 11 Home pre-installed.

                    I will go to the website where I purchased MS Windows 11 Pro from, download it and then start the install and during the installation insert the key code when requested.

                    Bruce mention “One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro”.

                    I thought the key code would need to be entered during the installation process ie a screen would appear requesting me to enter the code.
                    In view of that would I still need to go into Settings, System, Activation and change the product key as Bruce suggested, remembering I purchased from shop.winandoffice.com so the account will be with them and not Microsoft themselves?

                    I just want to make sure I’m doing it correctly with both your guidance’s.

                    Another daft thought, will I not end up with Windows Home and Pro on the machine?

                    Will I need to uninstall the Home version after the installation of Pro?

                    Sorry if the questions are bit elementary.

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                    • Clive744
                      PCHF Member
                      • May 2021
                      • 54

                      #11
                      Hi Peter

                      No, I don’t sign in, I just start my computer up in the normal way and a screen appears saying sign in, so I just click on the sign in button and my desktop opens with all my shortcuts.

                      Can I just run this by both you and Bruce, When the new laptop arrives it will have Windows 11 Home pre-installed.

                      I will go to the website where I purchased MS Windows 11 Pro from, download it and then start the install and during the installation insert the key code when requested.

                      Bruce mention “One method to upgrade a Home version to the Pro version is to click Start, Settings, System, Activation, in the Change Product Key field, click Change and enter the key for Win11 Pro”.

                      I thought the key code would need to be entered during the installation process ie a screen would appear requesting me to enter the code.
                      In view of that would I still need to go into Settings, System, Activation and change the product key as Bruce suggested, remembering I purchased from shop.winandoffice.com so the account will be with them and not Microsoft themselves?

                      I just want to make sure I’m doing it correctly with both your guidance’s.

                      Another daft thought, will I not end up with Windows Home and Pro on the machine?

                      Will I need to uninstall the Home version after the installation of Pro?

                      Sorry if the questions are bit elementary.

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                      • Clive744
                        PCHF Member
                        • May 2021
                        • 54

                        #12
                        As far as telling how many times Iv’e used the key code, I guess when I enter it, it will either accept it or not.

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                        • Clive744
                          PCHF Member
                          • May 2021
                          • 54

                          #13
                          As far as telling how many times Iv’e used the key code, I guess when I enter it, it will either accept it or not.

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                          • Clive744
                            PCHF Member
                            • May 2021
                            • 54

                            #14
                            Ok Guys

                            The new laptop has arrived, Iv’e hard wired it to the internet switched it on and a message has come up saying “There’s a problem that’s preventing us from getting your PC ready to use but we think an update will help get things working again”. so Iv’e clicked get the updates which it’s done and it restarted.

                            I carried on and done things like select language and keyboard type.

                            Now it’s saying create a Microsoft Account ie. email address, phone or skype, (see the screen shots.) I don’t have to sign in when using my PC and don’t want to sign in every time I use the laptop, can I simply click the next button ignoring that reqquest? Is having an account a good thing or a Microsoft pain?

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                            • Clive744
                              PCHF Member
                              • May 2021
                              • 54

                              #15
                              Ok Guys

                              The new laptop has arrived, Iv’e hard wired it to the internet switched it on and a message has come up saying “There’s a problem that’s preventing us from getting your PC ready to use but we think an update will help get things working again”. so Iv’e clicked get the updates which it’s done and it restarted.

                              I carried on and done things like select language and keyboard type.

                              Now it’s saying create a Microsoft Account ie. email address, phone or skype, (see the screen shots.) I don’t have to sign in when using my PC and don’t want to sign in every time I use the laptop, can I simply click the next button ignoring that reqquest? Is having an account a good thing or a Microsoft pain?

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