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  • Slytod
    PCHF Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 269

    #1

    Another BSOD Issue

    Hoping someone can help. I am running Windows 10 and it randomly crashes out to a blue screen. No error codes, just “SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION”. It’s been happening a while now so difficult to think of anything that changed at the time. But the hardware (apart from a couple of fans) has remained unchanged for years.

    Initially I thought it may be because 2 of the fans had apparently failed, and I hadn’t known, but replacing them has changed nothing.

    I have tried some suggestions from the Internet such as SFC and DISM. On one occasion one of them found problems and fixed them, but the crash issue remains.

    I am presently at my girlfriend’s house and brought the PC over with me to monitor what was happening. Initially it looked as if the issue had gone as it went days running ok, and I wondered if it was because it is not connected to the Internet here; but it has now crashed out twice over the last 2 days.

    I assume it may be a driver but have no idea how to identify the cause. And the logs are all very interesting but mean nothing to me.

    [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]Having just looked at you’re ‘read me first’ I’ll try to provide the requested stuff, but the working desktop being upstairs and the one with issues having no Interconnect connection and being downstairs, makes things rather difficult. I’ll see what I can do.

    Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/COLOR]
  • jmarket
    PCHF Owner
    • Jan 2015
    • 7634

    #2
    Good morning @Slytod

    First let’s get some information about your system.

    What version of Windows 10 are you running?
    What are your hardware specs?

    Please download the Sysnative BSOD Dump + System File Collection App - save to Documents folder. Please note that no personal information is collected using this process

    Run the app - Double-click on the downloaded EXE file
    Output = new folder created in Documents + a zipped version – SysnativeFileCollectionApp folder + SysnativeFileCollectionApp.zip.

    Please note that the app averages ~3 minutes to run on most systems; other systems - it my take as long as 10-15 minutes to run. Please be patient.

    Also note: The app auto-zips the SysnativeFileCollectionApp output folder. It is located in your Documents folder.
    Windows Explorer should open and highlight the zipped folder

    Please attach the SysnativeFileCollectionApp.zip to your post and await further instructions

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    • jmarket
      PCHF Owner
      • Jan 2015
      • 7634

      #3
      How big is the zip file?

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      • Slytod
        PCHF Member
        • Jan 2017
        • 269

        #4
        3,079 KB

        Any idea how one can pass a large file over ?

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        • Bruce
          PCHF Moderator
          • Oct 2017
          • 10697

          #5
          @Slytod, do you still need help?
          some post in this thread may have been lost in a recent forum crash.

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          • jmarket
            PCHF Owner
            • Jan 2015
            • 7634

            #6
            @Slytod Could you please repost the link?

            The post you made the other day is corrupted and unfortunately has been deleted

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            • Slytod
              PCHF Member
              • Jan 2017
              • 269

              #7
              Yes the situation hasn’t changed, but so far the BSOD hasn’t appeared for a few days. I’ve no doubt it will sometime though. It’s late, will have to post again in the morning.

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              • Rustys
                PCHF Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 7862

                #8
                Post the most recent dump files that may help it be able to get it attached.

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                • Slytod
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 269

                  #9

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                  • jmarket
                    PCHF Owner
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 7634

                    #10
                    Well I have some bad news for you Slytod.

                    I analyed your most recent dump file and it doesn’t look good:
                    Code:
                    SYMBOL_NAME:  PAGE_NOT_ZERO
                    
                    MODULE_NAME: hardware
                    
                    IMAGE_NAME:  hardware_ram
                    
                    STACK_COMMAND:  .cxr 0xffff81012baf0920 ; kb
                    
                    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  PAGE_NOT_ZERO_0x3B_c0000005
                    
                    OS_VERSION:  10.0.19041.1
                    
                    BUILDLAB_STR:  vb_release
                    
                    OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x64
                    
                    OSNAME:  Windows 10
                    
                    FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {e53488a4-f53d-5828-4e8b-03e3e9cba4c2}
                    
                    Followup:     MachineOwner
                    ---------
                    
                     *** Memory manager detected 3 instance(s) of page corruption, target is likely to have memory corruption.
                    This points to faulty RAM. Not always, but this particular crash was caused by a hardware fault.

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                    • Slytod
                      PCHF Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 269

                      #11
                      Ok, thanks. More pricey than a free driver, but I can reseat RAM, and replace if a particular board can be identified. Have you suggestions on the best, free way of testing RAM ?

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                      • jmarket
                        PCHF Owner
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 7634

                        #12
                        I would run MemTest. It’s completely free.

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                        • Rustys
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7862

                          #13
                          While in there reseating the RAM do the data and power cables maker that they did not come loose.

                          Depending on how may passes you run Memtester it may not find anything.

                          How many sticks of ram do you have in the system?

                          You could test each one in each one of the slots one at a time and see how the system runs.

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                          • Slytod
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 269

                            #14
                            Is Memtest 86 what you refer to ? I’ve downloaded that but looks like I need to find an unused USB drive to install it on.

                            All 6 banks of RAM are filled.

                            Will removing 5 banks st a time, cause issues ? Actually, IIRC I think they need to be installed in pairs.

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                            • Rustys
                              PCHF Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7862

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slytod
                              Is Memtest 86 what you refer to ?
                              Yes
                              Originally posted by Slytod
                              Will removing 5 banks st a time, cause issues ? Actually, IIRC I think they need to be installed in pairs.
                              If it requires pairs then try it in pairs have to refer to the manual for which banks to use.

                              What was the outcome after reseating everything?

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