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  • lilpodigepie
    PCHF Member
    • May 2020
    • 10

    #1

    Cannot install any x64 OS

    Hey guys,

    It appears I now cannot install any x64 OS
    ●Win 10- BSOD straight away showing Kernel Security Check Failure
    ●Win 7- Restarts after loading files
    ●Win XP - Restarts after seting up just before format
    ●Ubuntu- LIVE USB runs fine, trying to install restarts after choose username and password

    I’ve tried 3 seperate hard drives and switching between usb and dvd, I’ve isolated the ram and removed all but essential.

    My system:
    Mobo: Intel DQ57TM
    CPU: Intel i3 650

    I have managed to run a x32 XP and removed an old hdd from a laptop that had x32 win 10 on it that ran.
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15206

    #2
    Hello lilpodigepie,

    Bit of an odd one and if ok with you lets try and stick with just the one OS, Windows 10, coupe of questions if I may;

    From where was the Windows 10 media for the installation obtained, you can check that the ISO is good using QEMU if you have access to another computer

    If these components are out of a brand name computer can you post the model name and number for us.

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    • lilpodigepie
      PCHF Member
      • May 2020
      • 10

      #3
      Originally posted by phillpower2
      Hello lilpodigepie,

      Bit of an odd one and if ok with you lets try and stick with just the one OS, Windows 10, coupe of questions if I may;

      From where was the Windows 10 media for the installation obtained, you can check that the ISO is good using QEMU if you have access to another computer

      If these components are out of a brand name computer can you post the model name and number for us.
      I tried the media creator and an ISO from a torrent site (I have paid for licence just to double check that iso wasn’t the issue)

      I’m sorry I don’t quite understand what complete you mean my motherboard is Intel DQ57TM and CPU is Intel i3 650

      Thanks for all the help

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15206

        #4
        We can only help you if you an official ISO that was downloaded direct from Microsoft so please no more mention of torrents.

        Was the motherboard out of a brand name computer such as a Dell or HP, reason I ask is because you can sometimes find the proper installation disks for them.

        Tbh I have only ever seen this type of problem when someone was trying to install 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit computer, what they hadn’t done when downloading the ISO was use the create an ISO for use on another computer option so the ISO that was created was for the 32-bit computer that the person was using at the time.

        Starting from scratch, do you have a Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft on a 16GB thumbdrive that was created on a 64-bit computer.

        Can I ask that you do not quote every reply, it really does not help any and just makes for unnecessary reading, thanks.

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        • lilpodigepie
          PCHF Member
          • May 2020
          • 10

          #5
          I got the mobo from my brother who got it from eBay so unfortunetly no disk.

          I do have the win10 x64 iso from windows however I dont have a seperate pc so I need to install xp x32 and create bootable media that way n yeah I’ve got a 16GB thumbdrive and an external disk drive.

          When I created the media I definitely clicked for use on another pc, to make the usb drive

          Sorry about the quotes.

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15206

            #6
            Did the board work when your brother had it, have to ask as for all we know it may have been on ebay because it was broken.

            Am I understanding the above correctly, you have Windows XP running on a computer and you want to clean install Windows 10 on it.

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            • lilpodigepie
              PCHF Member
              • May 2020
              • 10

              #7
              Yeah all was working fine when he had it, was carefully looked after and stored in one of those electric proof bags etc.

              Yes that’s correct so I’ve currently got x32 Windows XP running and I need x64 7 or above. My prosesser and mobo are defo x64 comparable

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15206

                #8
                First thing that was checked was compatibility so we know that the MB and CPU are compatible.

                Did you check your Windows 10 ISO with QEMU as was suggested in my reply # 2

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                • lilpodigepie
                  PCHF Member
                  • May 2020
                  • 10

                  #9
                  I’ve not done that yet, I will download it just now. I have however tried other iso files.

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                  • lilpodigepie
                    PCHF Member
                    • May 2020
                    • 10

                    #10
                    I can’t seem to get QEMU to work correctly, will virtualbox work the same?

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15206

                      #11
                      What are you expecting to happen, reason I ask is because if the ISO is good all you will get to see is the blue Windows 10 logo on the screen, if you don`t it suggests that the ISO is bad.

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                      • lilpodigepie
                        PCHF Member
                        • May 2020
                        • 10

                        #12
                        So I’ve managed to install VMware and ran the iso. I get the following error:
                        A fault has occurred causing a virtual CPU to enter the shutdown state. If this fault had occurred outside of a virtual machine, it would have caused the physical machine to restart. The shutdown state can be reached by incorrectly configuring the virtual machine, a bug in the guest operating system, or a problem in VMware Workstation.
                        Just before the above error appears I see the usual windows 10 logo with no rings the it hangs for lets say 5 minutes, this is excatly what I also see when I try boot the x64 from my own physical system. except it restarts or goes to BSOD sometimes showing error Kernel Security Check Failure

                        I’ve also tried another x64 ISO on WM and it does the same, I also tried a x32 bit OS and that installed just fine. I’m going to retry the download from the media creator and try again. I’ll update how this goes!

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                        • system
                          PCHF Owner
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 7634

                          #13
                          Excuse me butting in here but I see you mention a virtual machine in some of your posts. Is your issue the fact that you cant run 64 bit bit operating systems inside a virtual machine? If so you will have to enable Virtualization in your bios to run 64 bit guest OS’s

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15206

                            #14
                            In addition to what gus has advised;
                            Originally posted by lilpodigepie
                            Just before the above error appears I see the usual windows 10 logo with no rings
                            If you are talking about when testing your ISO with QEMU then that is exactly what you should see, the check only goes as far as the Windows logo so no rings, the fact that you get the Windows logo means that the ISO is good, over to what gus has spotted now.

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                            • lilpodigepie
                              PCHF Member
                              • May 2020
                              • 10

                              #15
                              Thanks very much for the info Gus, the iso does now boot within VM.

                              And on any iso I try I do see the blue logo, So im guessing the ISO is not the issue, which in a way to me is bad news as it’s harder fix!

                              I downloaded the ISO files from the Microsoft site again this time without the media creator, I used poweriso to write to USB, now both the x64 and x32 restarted after hanging on the blue logo for a few moments. The x64 one did show rings for a few seconds before restart.

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