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  • caskin
    PCHF Member
    • May 2017
    • 181

    #1

    First welcome back?Need your Help with screen freeze and friendly blue screens

    No Idea how long you guys have been back,but so good to see you,was lost without Wolfie etc…have written on the lounge page so hoping past will be revealed there,as I spent many good years with PCHF.
    Problem Acer Aspire model M3910…during the last 6 months have experienced endless screen freezes plus freindly blue screens.it became so bad that in the end I did (what I hate doing) a factory reboot.For a while all was well,now it has started again.I have doubled checked all drivers are OK,installed full expensive version of AVG who assure me PC is fully optimised and ALL drivers are in date.All hardware is as was/is?
    Being in the middle of a disussion such as this and then getting screen freeze is not acceptable..all blue screens appear to point to BIOS memeory/caching/shadowing.
    If as always,you can help cure this intermittant fault (since rebbot a lot less) I would appreciate it..Caskin (Derek)
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8978

    #2
    Hello again.

    Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.
    @phillpower2 jmarket

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    • phillpower2
      PCHF Administrator
      • Sep 2016
      • 15206

      #3
      Hello Derek Castle,
      1. Copy any dmp files from C:\Windows\Minidump onto the desktop.
      2. Select all of them, right-click on one, and click on Send To> New Compressed (zipped) Folder.
      3. Upload the zip folder using the More Reply Options tab, Choose File then the Attach This File tab., bottom left of the dialogue input box.

      Please take expanded screenshots and only use the method below to attach them.

      Download Speedfan from here and install it. Once it’s installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.

      If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.



      (this is a screenshot from a vista machine)

      Download then run HWMonitor and post a screenshot so that we have a comparison to the Speedfan results, details from here

      To capture and post a screenshot;

      Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… Click on the Upload a File tab then after typing in any response you have… click on Post Reply like you normally would.

      Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.

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      • caskin
        PCHF Member
        • May 2017
        • 181

        #4
        Originally posted by vger
        Hello again.

        Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.
        @phillpower2 @jmarket
        Originally posted by vger
        Hello again.

        Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.
        @phillpower2 @jmarket
        Made a donation today,doesnt appear to be showing on my threads etc? Perhaps too soon?

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        • caskin
          PCHF Member
          • May 2017
          • 181

          #5
          Originally posted by phillpower2
          Hello Derek Castle,
          1. Copy any dmp files from C:\Windows\Minidump onto the desktop.
          2. Select all of them, right-click on one, and click on Send To> New Compressed (zipped) Folder.
          3. Upload the zip folder using the More Reply Options tab, Choose File then the Attach This File tab., bottom left of the dialogue input box.

          Please take expanded screenshots and only use the method below to attach them.
          phillpower2:
          Hello Derek Castle,
          1. Copy any dmp files from C:\Windows\Minidump onto the desktop.
          2. Select all of them, right-click on one, and click on Send To> New Compressed (zipped) Folder.
          3. Upload the zip folder using the More Reply Options tab, Choose File then the Attach This File tab., bottom left of the dialogue input box.

          Please take expanded screenshots and only use the method below to attach them.

          Download Speedfan from here and install it. Once it’s installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.

          If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.



          (this is a screenshot from a vista machine)

          Download then run HWMonitor and post a screenshot so that we have a comparison to the Speedfan results, details from here

          To capture and post a screenshot;

          Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… Click on the Upload a File tab then after typing in any response you have… click on Post Reply like you normally would.

          Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.
          Download Speedfan from here and install it. Once it’s installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.

          If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.



          (this is a screenshot from a vista machine)

          Download then run HWMonitor and post a screenshot so that we have a comparison to the Speedfan results, details from here

          To capture and post a screenshot;

          Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… Click on the Upload a File tab then after typing in any response you have… click on Post Reply like you normally would.

          Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.
          Im no expert at this game,but here goes,dropped dmp files on desk top,compressed one,do I just upload to you as file?
          Is this info of any use;
          Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
          Install Language: English (United States)
          System Locale: English (United Kingdom)
          Installed: 15/05/2017 20:13:39
          Boot Mode: BIOS (Secure Boot not supported)
          System Model
          Acer Aspire M3910
          System Serial Number: PTSDXE21170410535E2700
          Enclosure Type: Desktop
          Processor a
          3.20 gigahertz Intel Core i5 650
          64 kilobyte primary memory cache
          256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
          4096 kilobyte tertiary memory cache
          64-bit ready
          Multi-core (2 total)
          Hyper-threaded (4 total)
          Main Circuit Board b
          Board: Acer Aspire M3910
          Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
          BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-A3 05/17/2010
          Drives
          623.92 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
          566.61 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

          ATAPI DVD A DH16ABSH [Optical drive]

          Generic Compact Flash USB Device [Hard drive] – drive 1
          Generic microSD USB Device [Hard drive] – drive 3
          Generic MS/MS-PRO USB Device [Hard drive] – drive 4
          Generic SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] – drive 2
          Generic SM/xD-Picture USB Device [Hard drive] – drive 5
          Hitachi HDS721064CLA332 [Hard drive] (640.13 GB) – drive 0, s/n JP2640HP09YLMH, rev JPGOA3EA, SMART Status: Healthy
          Memory Modules c,d
          3064 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

          Slot ‘DIMM0’ has 2048 MB (serial number 94E27F3B)
          Slot ‘DIMM1’ is Empty
          Slot ‘DIMM2’ has 1024 MB (serial number 86EB4AE9)
          Slot ‘DIMM3’ is Empty
          Local Drive Volumes

          c: (NTFS on drive 0) * 311.87 GB 258.53 GB free

          d: (NTFS on drive 0) 312.05 GB 308.08 GB free
          • Operating System is installed on c:
            N

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          • caskin
            PCHF Member
            • May 2017
            • 181

            #6
            compressed dmp file attached ,I hope?

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15206

              #7
              Only the one crash dmp which I`m afraid to say is basically useless as it contains very little info;

              Debug session time: Fri May 26 09:11:39.741 2017 (UTC - 4:00)
              System Uptime: 0 days 0:01:24.271

              • Code:
                                                                                        *
              • Code:
                                   Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
              • Code:
                                                                                        *



              PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
              Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
              it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
              is pointing at freed memory.
              Arguments:
              Arg1: fffff8000520a190, memory referenced.
              Arg2: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
              Arg3: fffffa8005889064, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
              address.
              Arg4: 0000000000000002, (reserved)
              [HEADING=1]Debugging Details:[/HEADING]
              ***** Debugger could not find nt in module list, module list might be corrupt, error 0x80070057.

              READ_ADDRESS: unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolStart
              unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolEnd
              unable to get nt!MmPagedPoolEnd
              unable to get nt!MmNonPagedPoolStart
              unable to get nt!MmSizeOfNonPagedPoolInBytes
              fffff8000520a190

              FAULTING_IP:
              +0
              fffffa80`05889064 65488b1c2588010000 mov rbx,qword ptr gs:[188h]

              MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 2

              DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT

              BUGCHECK_STR: 0x50

              CURRENT_IRQL: 0

              LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80003138e02 to fffff800030bc4c0

              STACK_TEXT:
              fffff880[ICODE]07730928 fffff800[/ICODE]03138e02 : 00000000[ICODE]00000050 fffff800[/ICODE]0520a190 00000000[ICODE]00000000 fffff880[/ICODE]07730a90 : 0xfffff800[ICODE]030bc4c0 fffff880[/ICODE]07730930 00000000[ICODE]00000050 : fffff800[/ICODE]0520a190 00000000[ICODE]00000000 fffff880[/ICODE]07730a90 00000000[ICODE]00000002 : 0xfffff800[/ICODE]03138e02
              fffff880[ICODE]07730938 fffff800[/ICODE]0520a190 : 00000000[ICODE]00000000 fffff880[/ICODE]07730a90 00000000[ICODE]00000002 00000000[/ICODE]00000002 : 0x50
              fffff880[ICODE]07730940 00000000[/ICODE]00000000 : fffff880[ICODE]07730a90 00000000[/ICODE]00000002 00000000[ICODE]00000002 00000000[/ICODE]00000031 : 0xfffff800`0520a190

              STACK_COMMAND: kb

              SYMBOL_NAME: ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE

              FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

              MODULE_NAME: Unknown_Module

              IMAGE_NAME: Unknown_Image

              DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0

              BUCKET_ID: CORRUPT_MODULELIST
              [HEADING=1]Followup: MachineOwner[/HEADING]
              Your HDD has plenty of free storage space available and the SMART status is good so that is less likely to be the cause.

              Can we have the HWMonitor and Speedfan information please, I don`t wish to inundate you with things to do so will hold off with the next step for now.

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              • Malnutrition
                PCHF Moderator
                • Jul 2016
                • 7041

                #8
                Sysnative Tool.

                1. Download the Sysnative BSOD Dump + System File Collection App - save to Documents folder -
                2. Run the app - Double-click on the downloaded EXE file
                Output = new folder created in Documents + a zipped version – SysnativeFileCollectionApp + SysnativeFileCollectionApp.zip

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                • Malnutrition
                  PCHF Moderator
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7041

                  #9
                  @caskin I only posted this since it will grab all of the dump files for you, please follow up with @phillpower2

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                  • caskin
                    PCHF Member
                    • May 2017
                    • 181

                    #10
                    Originally posted by phillpower2
                    Only the one crash dmp which I`m afraid to say is basically useless as it contains very little info;

                    Debug session time: Fri May 26 09:11:39.741 2017 (UTC - 4:00)
                    System Uptime: 0 days 0:01:24.271

                    • Code:
                                                                                              *
                    • Code:
                                         Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
                    • Code:
                                                                                              *



                    PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
                    Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
                    it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
                    is pointing at freed memory.
                    Arguments:
                    Arg1: fffff8000520a190, memory referenced.
                    Arg2: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
                    Arg3: fffffa8005889064, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
                    address.
                    Arg4: 0000000000000002, (reserved)
                    [HEADING=1]Debugging Details:[/HEADING]
                    ***** Debugger could not find nt in module list, module list might be corrupt, error 0x80070057.

                    READ_ADDRESS: unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolStart
                    unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolEnd
                    unable to get nt!MmPagedPoolEnd
                    unable to get nt!MmNonPagedPoolStart
                    unable to get nt!MmSizeOfNonPagedPoolInBytes
                    fffff8000520a190

                    FAULTING_IP:
                    +0
                    fffffa80`05889064 65488b1c2588010000 mov rbx,qword ptr gs:[188h]

                    MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 2

                    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT

                    BUGCHECK_STR: 0x50

                    CURRENT_IRQL: 0

                    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80003138e02 to fffff800030bc4c0

                    STACK_TEXT:
                    fffff880[ICODE]07730928 fffff800[/ICODE]03138e02 : 00000000[ICODE]00000050 fffff800[/ICODE]0520a190 00000000[ICODE]00000000 fffff880[/ICODE]07730a90 : 0xfffff800[ICODE]030bc4c0 fffff880[/ICODE]07730930 00000000[ICODE]00000050 : fffff800[/ICODE]0520a190 00000000[ICODE]00000000 fffff880[/ICODE]07730a90 00000000[ICODE]00000002 : 0xfffff800[/ICODE]03138e02
                    fffff880[ICODE]07730938 fffff800[/ICODE]0520a190 : 00000000[ICODE]00000000 fffff880[/ICODE]07730a90 00000000[ICODE]00000002 00000000[/ICODE]00000002 : 0x50
                    fffff880[ICODE]07730940 00000000[/ICODE]00000000 : fffff880[ICODE]07730a90 00000000[/ICODE]00000002 00000000[ICODE]00000002 00000000[/ICODE]00000031 : 0xfffff800`0520a190

                    STACK_COMMAND: kb

                    SYMBOL_NAME: ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE

                    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

                    MODULE_NAME: Unknown_Module

                    IMAGE_NAME: Unknown_Image

                    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0

                    BUCKET_ID: CORRUPT_MODULELIST
                    [HEADING=1]Followup: MachineOwner[/HEADING]
                    Your HDD has plenty of free storage space available and the SMART status is good so that is less likely to be the cause.

                    Can we have the HWMonitor and Speedfan information please, I don`t wish to inundate you with things to do so will hold off with the next step for now.
                    Right one more piece of the puzzle,will catch up with other members advice asap..caskin

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                    • caskin
                      PCHF Member
                      • May 2017
                      • 181

                      #11
                      Originally posted by caskin
                      Made a donation today,doesnt appear to be showing on my threads etc? Perhaps too soon?
                      Thanks thats excellent,like being back in the old comfy chair again Cheers Derek

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                      • caskin
                        PCHF Member
                        • May 2017
                        • 181

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Malnutrition
                        @caskin I only posted this since it will grab all of the dump files for you, please follow up with @phillpower2
                        Thank you,jiust going to play with it now!!

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                        • caskin
                          PCHF Member
                          • May 2017
                          • 181

                          #13
                          Originally posted by caskin
                          Thank you,jiust going to play with it now!!
                          I Think I have it will send as zipped to Phil thanks again for assistance

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                          • caskin
                            PCHF Member
                            • May 2017
                            • 181

                            #14
                            Originally posted by phillpower2
                            Hello Derek Castle,
                            1. Copy any dmp files from C:\Windows\Minidump onto the desktop.
                            2. Select all of them, right-click on one, and click on Send To> New Compressed (zipped) Folder.
                            3. Upload the zip folder using the More Reply Options tab, Choose File then the Attach This File tab., bottom left of the dialogue input box.

                            Please take expanded screenshots and only use the method below to attach them.

                            Download Speedfan from here and install it. Once it’s installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.

                            If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.



                            (this is a screenshot from a vista machine)

                            Download then run HWMonitor and post a screenshot so that we have a comparison to the Speedfan results, details from here

                            To capture and post a screenshot;

                            Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… Click on the Upload a File tab then after typing in any response you have… click on Post Reply like you normally would.

                            Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.
                            Have sent monitor file as requested? Hope next upload will be all files required (with help from members)

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                            • caskin
                              PCHF Member
                              • May 2017
                              • 181

                              #15
                              Please keep me informed if everything reached you OK,plus what other files you may require Cheers caskin

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