Games Minimizing to Desktop or Crashing

[phillpower2]

No worries you have kindly let us know that you may not be around so no problem with any delay.

Rather than gaming, if you get chance please refer to my canned info below;
Something for you to do to see how your present set up handles video when not online gaming;

Use the free versions at the following links;

Stress test your GPU with Furmark

Check your FPS etc with SUPERPOSITION

Try first of all with just the two sticks and no XMP enabled.

If all okay, try the four sticks with no XMP enabled before posting back with an update as and when you are able to.

[sakers92]

I ran the above stress tests. I ran each 3 times and have supplied my best results of each 3 tests, all benchmarks completed with no issues. Admittedly though these are all with all 4 sticks installed. I didnt run them with 2 sticks yet.

Furmark 1080p: FurMark2 Score

Superposition: See attached screenshots. I ran 1080p extreme and 4k optimised tests.

I also ran Cinibench tests:
CPU single thread score: 96
CPU Multithread score: 861
GPU Score: 13087

[phillpower2]

. I didnt run them with 2 sticks yet.

Sorry but that was not what was advised, you help us to help you and all that :whistle:

Try first of all with just the two sticks and no XMP enabled.

There was particular reason why this was suggested.

[sakers92]

There was particular reason why this was suggested.

Ok, my apologies. Here are all results again with 2 sticks at DIMMA2 and DIMMB2 as recommended.

Furmark: FurMark2 Score

Superposition and Cinebench: Screenshots attached.

[sakers92]

Since i had no noticable issues running the tests with 2 sticks of RAM, i ran them again with 4 installed. Here are the updated results. So this post in addition to my previous reply #18 are the tests done in the original order you suggested, again, apologies for not going this route as advised initially.
All tests done with XMP disabled.

Furmark: FurMark2 Score

Superposition and Cinebench results attached. I know Cinebench has never been asked for however its already on my PC so i didnt see the harm in adding it to the other bench marks in case it can help.

[phillpower2]

No worries, took a bit longer getting there but you have now effectively ruled out both bad RAM and/or DIMM slots.

Before we move on can you do the below for us;

Can you let us know if you have done any gaming and if so did you have any problems.

Post a new Speccy url for us if you will.

[sakers92]

Excellent that’s good news, also i did game twice recently.

1. On the morning that I tested the 2 sticks, i played for around 30 mins with no issues, however that’s not long enough to provoke a crash usually, i can confirm though that the game didn’t minimise at 7.29 am as it used to.
2. I played again with the 4 sticks after yesterday’s update, this was a long session of a full race on F1 23, again no issue and this would usually crash.
   However I have occasionally had successfully full races in the past so il need to continue testing that this week.

I’m off work until Monday so I can test thoroughly through the week and provide updates.
Will provide a speccy as soon as I’m at the PC later, updating this via mobile currently.

[phillpower2]

Thanks for the update which I’m pleased to say looks positive.

[phillpower2]

Will provide a speccy as soon as I’m at the PC later, updating this via mobile currently.

Do you still require assistance or should we assume that you no longer require assistance.

[sakers92]

Hi there, apologies for the wait. Up to date Speccy as requested: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/7...AFHf0GuyOtYTna

I had another successful long gaming session over the weekend with no crashes or issues. This time i played for a few hours longer than usual and all was good. I’d say more or less resolved. I’d like to wait until tomorrow morning before requesting closure just to confirm the minimising issue, iv only had chance to use the PC 1 single time before 7.29AM so would just like to simulate it another time in the morning to be 100%, if thats ok.

Just 1 more final question on this subject, obviously with XMP off, my ram is only running at 2133MHZ. As pointed out earlier, my CPU is capable of 3200. Can i manually set the RAM speed to 3200 WITHOUT using XMP, to get the maximum performance from it? Or should i just leave it all alone?

Really appreciate all your help so far.

[phillpower2]

Just 1 more final question on this subject, obviously with XMP off, my ram is only running at 2133MHZ. A

That in itself is weird as the SPD of the RAM that you have means that it should work at 1333MHz which equates to 2666MHz in dual channel, you can confirm this for yourself here

Manually OCing past 2666MHz will mean that you will also need to increase the voltage, suggest that you try 3000MHz and 1.35V first, try that for a while and if all good ratchet the speed up to 3200MHz and see how you get on with that.

[sakers92]

That in itself is weird as the SPD of the RAM that you have means that it should work at 1333MHz which equates to 2666MHz in dual channel, you can confirm this for yourself here

Hmm, that is odd. Maybe this is an error on my part, I grabbed the figure from task manager just after booting up the PC.

Either way, final update time. I upped the voltage as you suggested to 1.35v and had no issues on benchmarks or gaming at 3000, same again at 3200MHz. All stable, no issues. I’m more than happy with the results.

To summarise:

• My games crashing and BSODs were due to lack of research choosing my RAM kit and incorrectly using the XMP profile.
• The minimizing issue was caused by my scheduled tasks, CC cleaner Crash reporting to be specific.
  It seems that process was grabbing focus over everything else running on the PC for the split second it began.

I’m happy for this to be closed and marked as resolved now.

Huge thanks to Phillpower2 for the continued input, and also to Malnourished for the help provided earlier in the thread. I appreciate it big time.

[phillpower2]

Glad that we were able to help and thank you for both the summary and for letting us know that all is now well with your computer.

You are most welcome btw