Going into low fps range in games on high end system is unplayable.

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  • ADtk
    PCHF Member
    • Jun 2022
    • 25

    #1

    Going into low fps range in games on high end system is unplayable.

    So I have been trying to figure this issue out for the longest time since I got my brand new high end gaming pc (i9 12900k, 3080ti, 1200W PSU, z-690-e mobo, ddr 5 ram, Gsync premium 1440p gaming monitor,etc etc)
    The issue I have is whenever the game goes below a certain fps lets say in the range or 100-120 or below, the games feel very very choppy, laggy, blurry while moving the camera. Something that you would never feel in a normal pc and anything above 60 fps feels relatively smooth.
    I tried multiple settings, combinations to try and get my system to run as a normal system would do in instances where the fps are low either because the game is really heavy altogether or the fps drop when going into a graphical intensive area.
    I have no idea why no one has ever made this an issue and I couldn’t find anything online. For example, BF 2042 does not go above 120 fps generally on high/ultra settings on my pc but still the game feels choppy and unplayable. So either there is something wrong on my end or people are okay with the game running this way. I would deduce that it has something to do on my end because it’s not just battle field. It’s every game, when falling into the 100 range and below, the game is not smooth at all especially while panning the camera. I have tried setting the games cap to 60, 100, 120 but the result is the same.
    I have seen the same games play on other pcs running on 90 fps and feel perfectly smooth and no lag what so ever.

    Does anyone in this world know what this issue might be or has ever faced such a problem and found a fix. Because certainly with this setup I should not worry about playing games on ultra high settings where I get anything above 60 and it not being smooth at all. It’s a feeling of say running on 30fps even though the frames show 90 or more.

    I would really appreciate everyone’s help on this.

    Thank you
  • Bruce
    PCHF Moderator
    • Oct 2017
    • 10702

    #2
    let’s get some more traction and see if anyone has suggestions.

    @Bastet @Pyro @BlindSeeker @PeterOz

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    • Bastet
      PCHF Member
      • Aug 2016
      • 1515

      #3
      Does the PC have dual graphics? If so ensure the game is using the nVidia card.
      Are the drivers up to date?
      Is anything running in the background? If yes close these.
      Do you have third part antivirus software?

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      • veeg
        PCHF Director
        • Jul 2016
        • 8982

        #4
        What is your ram clocked at?

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        • ADtk
          PCHF Member
          • Jun 2022
          • 25

          #5
          Originally posted by Bruce
          let’s get some more traction and see if anyone has suggestions.

          @Bastet @Pyro @BlindSeeker @PeterOz
          Thanks Bruce

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          • ADtk
            PCHF Member
            • Jun 2022
            • 25

            #6
            Originally posted by Bastet
            Does the PC have dual graphics? If so ensure the game is using the nVidia card.
            Are the drivers up to date?
            Is anything running in the background? If yes close these.
            Do you have third part antivirus software?
            No, running a single gpu.
            Drivers are up to date
            Background apps are just your regular ones on windows 11. Not sure if there’s one or few in particular that might be causing this issue. but the apps I have installed and run in the background are icue, logitech g hub and msi afterburner/riva tuner
            I don’t use any third party antivirus software.

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            • ADtk
              PCHF Member
              • Jun 2022
              • 25

              #7
              Originally posted by veeg
              What is your ram clocked at?
              5600

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              • veeg
                PCHF Director
                • Jul 2016
                • 8982

                #8
                Reset to 3200 and see if that helps.

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                • ADtk
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jun 2022
                  • 25

                  #9
                  Originally posted by veeg
                  Reset to 3200 and see if that helps.
                  Yes I did that but didn’t help. I think my ram goes down to 4200 or 4300 when xmp is disabled. Something like that. But yea that didn’t fix it for me

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                  • ADtk
                    PCHF Member
                    • Jun 2022
                    • 25

                    #10
                    Another thing I would like to add here is that when I turn of gsync and vsync and pan the camera it will still stutter even on high fps. One game I play which is not really demanding is dota. When I turn off gsync and vsync and use my mouse to pann the camera I notice micro stutters and of course screen tearing even when the game is running constantly at 235-240 fps without drops

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                    • veeg
                      PCHF Director
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 8982

                      #11
                      How many usb peripherals do you have plugged in?

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                      • ADtk
                        PCHF Member
                        • Jun 2022
                        • 25

                        #12
                        Originally posted by veeg
                        How many usb peripherals do you have plugged in?
                        I use 6 at the moment. 2 are for the wireless receivers for logitech Kyboard and Mouse. 2 of them are their charging cables. 1 is for my RGB on the mouse mat and the last one is for my headphones.

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                        • ADtk
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jun 2022
                          • 25

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ADtk
                          Apologies it’s 7 in total at the moment. 2 are for the wireless receivers for logitech Keyboard and Mouse. 2 of them are their charging cables. 1 is for my RGB on the mouse mat, 1 is for my headphones and the last one is iphone charging cable

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                          • BlindSeeker
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jun 2022
                            • 22

                            #14
                            Forgive me as I am not a gamer but experience has shown me that there are a few things to look for with a laggy PC.
                            [ol]
                            [li]Bad video drivers. If the issue started after an update then drivers could be the culprit.[/li][li]slow or noisy Internet. If you are using WiFi then your neighbors could be causing interference[/li][li]Software running in the background taking cycles away from the game. Are you running a chat, streaming or screen shot software?[/li][li]Hardware. Just because it says new doesn’t mean good.[/li][/ol]
                            ISP throttling could also be the problem. Assuming you are playing online games you could try a low latency DNS server. Oh and one more thing. On high end monitors you might concider a good display cable. Some do not have good enough shielding to mitigate the data line cross talk.

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                            • ADtk
                              PCHF Member
                              • Jun 2022
                              • 25

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BlindSeeker
                              Forgive me as I am not a gamer but experience has shown me that there are a few things to look for with a laggy PC.
                              [ol]
                              [li]Bad video drivers. If the issue started after an update then drivers could be the culprit.[/li][li]slow or noisy Internet. If you are using WiFi then your neighbors could be causing interference[/li][li]Software running in the background taking cycles away from the game. Are you running a chat, streaming or screen shot software?[/li][li]Hardware. Just because it says new doesn’t mean good.[/li][/ol]
                              ISP throttling could also be the problem. Assuming you are playing online games you could try a low latency DNS server. Oh and one more thing. On high end monitors you might concider a good display cable. Some do not have good enough shielding to mitigate the data line cross talk.
                              The issue has been like this since I got the pc built 3 months back. Hey Thanks for mentioning the above. I can try using a better cable. And yes the hardware is new but I don’t know how to check if it’s faulty. Also, background software I don’t know which ones might be causing the issue. Definitely not using any of the chat, streaming, screen shot software in the background either. Also, the issue happens on both online and offline games.

                              My question is why high fps is fine with gysnc of course if the hardware is an issue. It only happens when the game drops in the low fps area and of course 110-120 is not low in any way.

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