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  • PeterOz
    PCHF Technical Response Team
    • Mar 2021
    • 4181

    #31
    Originally posted by Millagorilla
    Talk about a lucky score.
    Not bad
    Why water cooler ?
    Do you think they are better?
    I mean if it is free sure

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    • PeterOz
      PCHF Technical Response Team
      • Mar 2021
      • 4181

      #32
      Make sure you use a good quality thermal paste
      Too little= Bad
      Too much = Bad

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      • Millagorilla
        PCHF Member
        • Apr 2022
        • 25

        #33
        Originally posted by PeterOz
        Not bad
        Why water cooler ?
        Do you think they are better?
        I mean if it is free sure
        Yea. It was free. He was able to drop Almoast 30 degrees off his temps tonight by installing his.

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        • Millagorilla
          PCHF Member
          • Apr 2022
          • 25

          #34
          Originally posted by PeterOz
          Make sure you use a good quality thermal paste
          Too little= Bad
          Too much = Bad
          I’m pretty sure it comes with thermal paste on it. Do you suggest buying different paste?

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          • Pyro
            PCHF Member
            • Jan 2019
            • 1189

            #35
            Apologies, had the day off of PCHF.

            Custom power plans can be a good thing, but sometimes they can over stress/work components and cause instability, same with XMP, it is “technically” a form of overclocking.

            If it works at 3200MHz, I would just take the win and see if anything else is having troubles (that’s when I would starting questioning and changing more).

            As Peter said, make sure you use the proper amount of thermal compound, it’s pretty hard to mess up, but a small pea sized drop in the middle or a thin x will do you fine.

            If you are seeing temps of 70( (C?) I would be nowhere near concerned, if you’re not overclocked the stock coolers generally hold up well enough (Not as good as a nice BeQuiet! or Noctua cooler though, these are excellent units!)

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            • Millagorilla
              PCHF Member
              • Apr 2022
              • 25

              #36
              Originally posted by Pyro
              Apologies, had the day off of PCHF.

              Custom power plans can be a good thing, but sometimes they can over stress/work components and cause instability, same with XMP, it is “technically” a form of overclocking.

              If it works at 3200MHz, I would just take the win and see if anything else is having troubles (that’s when I would starting questioning and changing more).

              As Peter said, make sure you use the proper amount of thermal compound, it’s pretty hard to mess up, but a small pea sized drop in the middle or a thin x will do you fine.

              If you are seeing temps of 70( (C?) I would be nowhere near concerned, if you’re not overclocked the stock coolers generally hold up well enough (Not as good as a nice BeQuiet! or Noctua cooler though, these are excellent units!)
              No apologies needed. I really appreciate the help you guys have given me. I have called computer stores asking for help Tuneing and even offering to pay to bring the unit in to let them tune it. But could never get a reply. So this was a big win and am going to refer everyone I know from here on out to this forum.

              I’ve got to check it again, (it could have been the servers) but I noticed last night while playing that I started off strong in the 115-130fps area, but after about 3-4 hrs of gameing I was struggling to hit 100fps. I didn’t get to try a system restar to see if that would fix it last night due to it being late. But I’m going to check today and see if it happens again. Fingers crossed that it was just some crappy lobby’s.

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              • Pyro
                PCHF Member
                • Jan 2019
                • 1189

                #37
                It’s possible, sometimes bad servers/internet can cause a variety of problems, good call on the restart!

                Generally I see thermal issues above the high 70s (Celsius) and into mid 80s or so, if you keep an eye on your temps and they stay in the 60s and mid 70s I wouldn’t be concerned.

                It could also be dependent on maps, the map with a lot more trees will bring your frames down more than a bland desert with nothing in it, pay attention to the drops and where you are.

                I don’t know if I would be concerned about 15-30 fps, again, thermal throttling is usually quite apparent, but taking a look won’t hurt you as long as you keep an objective mindset.

                I’m glad you got it sorted out, the people here are great and have a wide variety of skill-sets and knowledge to share!

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                • Millagorilla
                  PCHF Member
                  • Apr 2022
                  • 25

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pyro
                  It’s possible, sometimes bad servers/internet can cause a variety of problems, good call on the restart!

                  Generally I see thermal issues above the high 70s (Celsius) and into mid 80s or so, if you keep an eye on your temps and they stay in the 60s and mid 70s I wouldn’t be concerned.

                  It could also be dependent on maps, the map with a lot more trees will bring your frames down more than a bland desert with nothing in it, pay attention to the drops and where you are.

                  I don’t know if I would be concerned about 15-30 fps, again, thermal throttling is usually quite apparent, but taking a look won’t hurt you as long as you keep an objective mindset.

                  I’m glad you got it sorted out, the people here are great and have a wide variety of skill-sets and knowledge to share!
                  I have noticed that where I am in the map makes a difference, and I try to keep that in mind. I just get frustrated when my friend who doesn’t have the set up i do is running many more FPS than I do. I’m trying so hard to read and watch as much stuff as I can to learn how to tune and tweak this thing. But in true PC fashion, every time I think I’m getting ahead, somthing els pops up. Lol. But I’m stubborn and I’m sure this blind squirrel will find it’s nut. Hahaha.

                  Are you versed in GPU clocking? If so what do you suggest for overclocking? And is there a good video or artical to read on how to do it? I feel like that may be my resolve for my FPS not being stable.

                  After playing again tonight, I started off strong in the 130FPS range and after about an hr I was struggling to get 105 spending most of my time in the 80-90 range. I can’t for the life of me figure out why.

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                  • Malnutrition
                    PCHF Moderator
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7041

                    #39
                    Have you followed the steps in post 19? Or at least tried to remove Mcafee?

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                    • Millagorilla
                      PCHF Member
                      • Apr 2022
                      • 25

                      #40
                      Edit Disregard this, I found the download.

                      Thank you i must have skipped right over this. I am doing the suggest3ed actions now. i am at the point where im trying to download easy service optimizer and am having issues finding the download link on the provided web page. I see the option to download the Wave Browser. Is this correct? I am not seeing the Easy Service Optimizer option.

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                      • Millagorilla
                        PCHF Member
                        • Apr 2022
                        • 25

                        #41
                        Just completed
                        Originally posted by Malnutrition
                        Have you followed the steps in post 19? Or at least tried to remove Mcafee?
                        Just finished all of the steps. I gave Warzone a quick test and it seems to be doing pretty good sitting around 140-150 FPS. I will give this a proper test this evening to see if it sustains. Thank you for the help. Fingers crossed that that work. Seems promising from the initial test.

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                        • Pyro
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jan 2019
                          • 1189

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Millagorilla
                          I have noticed that where I am in the map makes a difference, and I try to keep that in mind. I just get frustrated when my friend who doesn’t have the set up i do is running many more FPS than I do. I’m trying so hard to read and watch as much stuff as I can to learn how to tune and tweak this thing. But in true PC fashion, every time I think I’m getting ahead, somthing els pops up. Lol. But I’m stubborn and I’m sure this blind squirrel will find it’s nut. Hahaha.

                          Are you versed in GPU clocking? If so what do you suggest for overclocking? And is there a good video or artical to read on how to do it? I feel like that may be my resolve for my FPS not being stable.

                          After playing again tonight, I started off strong in the 130FPS range and after about an hr I was struggling to get 105 spending most of my time in the 80-90 range. I can’t for the life of me figure out why.
                          There are so many components, who knows what it could be. You could always attempt the nuclear approach of freshly installing Windows to see if it is a software or hardware issue, but that is of course up to your discretion.

                          Not at all, I don’t mess with overclocking, the stability that comes with a moderate clock is invaluable in my opinion, some of the other members may have suggestions. I highly doubt it’s an underclocked GPU if this issue started recently unless you undid an overclock that was previously done.

                          Since this post it seems you have had some luck, I hope this resolves things completely!

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                          • PeterOz
                            PCHF Technical Response Team
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 4181

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Millagorilla
                            Are you versed in GPU clocking
                            Originally posted by Millagorilla
                            Tuneing the CPU
                            The best way to do this is buy the parts
                            If you want ram to run at 3600
                            Buy a mb, cpu and ram that do this from the start.

                            It is like buying a V6 car and trying to make it run like a V8 not going to happen

                            I am interested to know how the water cooler goes

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                            • Millagorilla
                              PCHF Member
                              • Apr 2022
                              • 25

                              #44
                              Originally posted by PeterOz
                              The best way to do this is buy the parts
                              If you want ram to run at 3600
                              Buy a mb, cpu and ram that do this from the start.

                              It is like buying a V6 car and trying to make it run like a V8 not going to happen

                              I am interested to know how the water cooler goes
                              I love that analogy. Well versed in all things that have four wheels and goes vroom. Haha. I guess that’s what I’m going after now. I’m one of those people who like to know how things work and how o make them better. So all of this knowledge sharing that y’all are helping me with is awsome. I have thought about going ahead and upgrading my CPU to somthing a little better. I would love to get a Ryzen 7 5800x but I’m unsure how to know if that’s going to gain me the results that I would like. I mean I’m not pro or anything but I would be happy if I could get it to the point where I seen 130FPS consistently in Warzone.

                              As far as the water cooler goes it dropped my temps considerably. Went from 70-73 degrees to a constant 55 degrees. Sometimes 59 but only for a second or two. Also helped quiet down the system somehow. I know it’s not related but my GPU used to ramp up and get kinda loud but now it stays really quiet. Downside is I have to get a new case to fit it properly. I kinda had to rig it up to make it work. Still works tho, so ima let it ride. Lol

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                              • Malnutrition
                                PCHF Moderator
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7041

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Millagorilla
                                I see the option to download the Wave Browser
                                You should not have seen that option, with this installed you won’t see crap like that anymore.
                                uBlock Origin is not just an “ad blocker“, it's a wide-spectrum content blocker with CPU and memory efficiency as a primary feature. Developed by Raymond Hill.


                                ???

                                Right now your dns server is set to adblocking DNS,(the batch file changed that setting) which may or may not be the best for your machine.

                                You can run a DNS benchmark on your machine to figure out the best dns server, which can lower ping times and improve online gaming and web browsing.



                                Once you have ran the bench marker, then apply the best DNS, I suggest running it twice to ensure.

                                Switching your DNS server might improve your browsing speeds, and can offer you additional features.


                                If you wind up not liking the setting, then here is Adblock dns.



                                You can set that on your router, to block ads across all of your devices in your home. It’s how I have mine set up at home.

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