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  • Awlody97
    PCHF Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 7

    #1

    Upgraded Parts, can’t get past Bios Screen

    So I recently upgraded my mobo and cpu from a gigabyte z390 and an i5 to an z590 msi gaming edge mobo and a i7 10700k. I hook everything up and my pc won’t boot up past the bios screen, I’ve updated bios because I thought that was the issue, clearly not, also my screen is flickering. I’m at a loss that is for sure, any insight would be great.
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15206

    #2
    Can you post a complete list of parts + let us know the following info;

    Does the system stay in the BIOS or go to a black/blank screen and stay there.

    Is the boot drive blank and ready to clean install Windows and the system drivers.

    Do you have a keyboard connected to the MB.

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    • Awlody97
      PCHF Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 7

      #3
      Originally posted by phillpower2
      Can you post a complete list of parts + let us know the following info;

      Does the system stay in the BIOS or go to a black/blank screen and stay there.

      Is the boot drive blank and ready to clean install Windows and the system drivers.

      Do you have a keyboard connected to the MB.
      2060 zotac
      Z590 gaming edge msi
      Corsair Vengeance 3000 16gb
      Samsung 500gb
      120gb ssd
      Corsair water cooling tower for cpu
      Corsair rm 750
      I7 10700k

      it blinks then the screen goes black for about 10 seconds.
      Yes I have a keyboard plugged in
      And I don’t know what you mean by boot drive I’m not good with PCs, which is clearly the problem. But when I hook everything back up the way it was with my old parts it works fine.

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15206

        #4
        Originally posted by Awlody97
        it blinks then the screen goes black for about 10 seconds.
        Does the screen stay black or go back into the BIOS.
        Originally posted by Awlody97
        And I don’t know what you mean by boot drive
        Are you trying to boot from a storage device that already has Windows on it.

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        • Awlody97
          PCHF Member
          • Jun 2021
          • 7

          #5
          Originally posted by phillpower2
          Does the screen stay black or go back into the BIOS.

          Are you trying to boot from a storage device that already has Windows on it.
          it does go back to the bios screen

          And yes I am booting up from a drive that has windows already

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15206

            #6
            A new MB means a clean install of Windows and for two reasons [COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]**

            Once Windows ha been installed before doing anything else you must install the chipset drivers for the MB, the SATA/storage device drivers for any SSD and/or HDD followed by the drivers for any add on GPU that may be present, these steps are a must and have to be done before Windows is allowed to check for updates as it has a habit of downloading the wrong drivers on you.

            Second reason is down to the Windows product key, ever since Windows 8 the Microsoft servers have stored the licence key and corresponding MB details on their servers, this means that should a user ever need to do a clean install the servers check that the licence key and MB details correspond and if they do the user does not need to enter a product key number, if the MB and licence key do not match the user gets asked for a new product key, see my canned info below;

            Unless your present product key is the full retail version you cannot use it with a new MB as an OEM product key is tied to the original MB it was paired with, to use an OEM key with a new MB is detected by the Microsoft servers as software piracy and therefore you get on screen warnings etc..

            Exceptions to the above are 1: If your MB is replaced under warranty and 2: If your MB is replaced out of warranty with an alternative type but same brand due to the original model no longer being available, an upgraded MB however will require the purchase of a new OS licence.

            If you have a full retail disk and a product key that is not in use on another computer the OEM restriction/s is/are not the same.

            [COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]** It is possible to uninstall the previous MB drivers while the drive is still in that PC, the Windows licence key info provided remains the same though so the workaround is not worth the hassle.

            [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Windows is trying to install the drivers for the previous MB and that is most likely what is causing the system to fall over.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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            • Awlody97
              PCHF Member
              • Jun 2021
              • 7

              #7
              Originally posted by phillpower2
              A new MB means a clean install of Windows and for two reasons [COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]**

              Once Windows ha been installed before doing anything else you must install the chipset drivers for the MB, the SATA/storage device drivers for any SSD and/or HDD followed by the drivers for any add on GPU that may be present, these steps are a must and have to be done before Windows is allowed to check for updates as it has a habit of downloading the wrong drivers on you.

              Second reason is down to the Windows product key, ever since Windows 8 the Microsoft servers have stored the licence key and corresponding MB details on their servers, this means that should a user ever need to do a clean install the servers check that the licence key and MB details correspond and if they do the user does not need to enter a product key number, if the MB and licence key do not match the user gets asked for a new product key, see my canned info below;

              Unless your present product key is the full retail version you cannot use it with a new MB as an OEM product key is tied to the original MB it was paired with, to use an OEM key with a new MB is detected by the Microsoft servers as software piracy and therefore you get on screen warnings etc..

              Exceptions to the above are 1: If your MB is replaced under warranty and 2: If your MB is replaced out of warranty with an alternative type but same brand due to the original model no longer being available, an upgraded MB however will require the purchase of a new OS licence.

              If you have a full retail disk and a product key that is not in use on another computer the OEM restriction/s is/are not the same.

              [COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)]** It is possible to uninstall the previous MB drivers while the drive is still in that PC, the Windows licence key info provided remains the same though so the workaround is not worth the hassle.

              [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Windows is trying to install the drivers for the previous MB and that is most likely what is causing the system to fall over.
              [/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]
              [COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)][COLOR=rgb(209, 72, 65)][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]
              So should I just buy windows 10 again, I think that’s what you are saying, also should I just do a hard reset on my files? Completely start from scratch? But how would I get the new windows 10 onto my pc with no disk drive[/color][/color][/color]

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15206

                #8
                While you have the previous parts assembled and working go here where it is explained how you can download a Windows 10 ISO for free, the USB option is the one that you want, you will still need to purchase a new Windows product key in the near future or you will get locked out of Windows 10 and Defender updates.

                Using the method above will allow you to back up your data first which will mean that you can wipe the drive completely and clean install 10 and the drivers for your new from scratch which is always the best option.

                Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed, thanks.

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                • Awlody97
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jun 2021
                  • 7

                  #9
                  So I just need to download windows onto flash drive? Then what? How do I load into through the bios and onto one my hard drives? I’m so sorry I’m sound stupid I’m not good at this stuff lol

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15206

                    #10
                    See steps one to three here

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                    • Awlody97
                      PCHF Member
                      • Jun 2021
                      • 7

                      #11
                      So do I still need to hard reset my hard drives and delete everything?

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15206

                        #12
                        Download your Windows ISO to the appropriate USB thumbdrive.

                        Back up your data.

                        Restart the computer so that you can access the BIOS and set the boot order to USB device first, save the new settings and exit the BIOS.

                        Shut down the PC, insert the USB thumbdrive into one of the black USB 2.0 ports, do not use a blue or red USB 3.0/3.1 port or the install will fail.

                        Restart the computer and follow the on screen steps to install Windows 10, this will format the drive as part of the process.

                        Once Windows has been installed you must install the chipset drivers first, the storage device drivers second and the video drivers third, do not let Windows check for updates before this has been done or the wrong drivers may get installed and cause you no end of problems.

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