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  • rclum
    PCHF Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 7

    #1

    Low FPS with pretty good hardware

    Hello,

    I’ve been looking for solutions to this, but so far I haven’t had much luck. Here are my stats:
    GPU: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    CPU: Intel i3-6100 CPU @ 3.7GHz
    RAM: 8 Gb Ballistix DDR4
    Motherboard: Gigabyte h110m-a

    From what I’ve seen, I should be getting around 200 fps on games like CS:GO, but I’m averaging around 90. All my settings in-game are low, but I’m still getting low fps. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I could do?

    Thanks!
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8977

    #2
    Hello

    Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.

    @phillpower2 @Twitch6000 @Evan Omo

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    • phillpower2
      PCHF Administrator
      • Sep 2016
      • 15205

      #3
      Is the problem the same if you play any offline games or only with games played via Steam, what is the brand and model name or number of your screen and the PSU.

      You are correct btw, you should be getting much better FPS with the CPU and GPU that you have.

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      • rclum
        PCHF Member
        • Apr 2018
        • 7

        #4
        Originally posted by phillpower2
        Is the problem the same if you play any offline games or only with games played via Steam, what is the brand and model name or number of your screen and the PSU.

        You are correct btw, you should be getting much better FPS with the CPU and GPU that you have.
        Hi Phill,

        I’m playing the Witcher 3 offline on mostly high/ultra settings and getting 90 fps when max fps is set to unlimited.

        My screen is a Samsung SA350, and my PSU is a Corsair VS500 500W supply.

        It’s really strange, because I get the same fps in CSGO whether or not my settings are high, or low.

        Thanks for your help!

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15205

          #5
          Hi rclum,

          Thanks for the update (y)

          A good screen so that effectively ruled out, offline games the same poor performance so likewise that does not look to be the cause, Corsair value series PSU now that could be a problem, the CX and VS range of Corsair PSUs are only entry level and Corsair only recommend them for office type desktops, the Toms PSU tier list here is a bit more blunt and says not to use them if at all possible;

          Tier Four

          Built down to a low price. Not exactly the most stable units ever created. Very basic safety circuitry or even thin gauge wiring used. Not for gaming rigs or overclocking systems of any kind. Avoid unless your budget dictates your choice.

          Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

          To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

          In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

          In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

          Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

          You are welcome btw

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          • rclum
            PCHF Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 7

            #6
            Originally posted by phillpower2
            Hi rclum,

            Thanks for the update (y)

            A good screen so that effectively ruled out, offline games the same poor performance so likewise that does not look to be the cause, Corsair value series PSU now that could be a problem, the CX and VS range of Corsair PSUs are only entry level and Corsair only recommend them for office type desktops, the Toms PSU tier list here is a bit more blunt and says not to use them if at all possible;

            Tier Four

            Built down to a low price. Not exactly the most stable units ever created. Very basic safety circuitry or even thin gauge wiring used. Not for gaming rigs or overclocking systems of any kind. Avoid unless your budget dictates your choice.

            Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

            To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

            In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

            In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

            Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

            You are welcome btw
            Hello again Phil,

            Here’s my screenshot: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/2...x5VtwQmpEAnMqo

            I’ll look into getting a new power supply.

            Thanks again!

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15205

              #7
              Hi rclum,

              Couple of things in Speccy, the CPU is running hot for a computer not under any load and there are high voltage readings (highlighted in red below), any high voltage will cause overheating, this could be a flaky PSU or MB but can I ask if any attempt at overclocking has been made.

              Intel Core i3 6100 @ 3.70GHz: [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]74 °C

              Voltage
              CPU CORE: 0.672 V
              [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]MEMORY CONTROLLER: 2.016 V
              VIN2: 2.016 V
              VIN3: 2.004 V
              VIN5: 1.080 V
              [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]VIN6: 1.212 V
              VIN7: 1.680 V

              Two other things that will not help, you only have a single stick of RAM meaning that it is only running at 50% of the speed that it is capable of, you are running AVG, this is a known resource hog, is it the free or paid for version.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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              • rclum
                PCHF Member
                • Apr 2018
                • 7

                #8
                Originally posted by phillpower2
                Hi rclum,

                Couple of things in Speccy, the CPU is running hot for a computer not under any load and there are high voltage readings (highlighted in red below), any high voltage will cause overheating, this could be a flaky PSU or MB but can I ask if any attempt at overclocking has been made.

                Intel Core i3 6100 @ 3.70GHz: [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]74 °C

                Voltage
                CPU CORE: 0.672 V
                [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]MEMORY CONTROLLER: 2.016 V
                VIN2: 2.016 V
                VIN3: 2.004 V
                VIN5: 1.080 V
                [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]VIN6: 1.212 V
                VIN7: 1.680 V

                Two other things that will not help, you only have a single stick of RAM meaning that it is only running at 50% of the speed that it is capable of, you are running AVG, this is a known resource hog, is it the free or paid for version.
                [/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]
                [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]
                Hi Phil,

                I’m not overclocking, I might also need to put some more thermal paste on my cpu. I’m running the free version of avg, I’ll look for a new antivirus software.

                So, in summary,

                I should consider getting more RAM, a new antivirus and a better PSU?

                Thanks![/color][/color][/color]

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15205

                  #9
                  Hi rclum,

                  When was this computer built, thermal compound when correctly applied will most often last the lifetime of the computer.

                  You do not need any 3rd party AV when running Windows 10, see info below;

                  Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 come with an improved Windows Defender, it offers the same real-time anti-virus/anti-malware protection as Microsoft Security Essentials. Windows Defender also shares the same malware signature definitions as Microsoft Security Essentials, and Forefront Endpoint Protection. Technically, Microsoft Security Essentials has not been renamed Windows Defender, or combined with it in Windows 8, 8.1 and 10.

                  Using Windows Defender in Windows 8/8.1 and 10 will free up resources taken up by any third party AV software + it will reduce the possibility of any conflicts.

                  How to uninstall AVG here
                  Originally posted by rclum
                  I should consider getting more RAM and a better PSU?
                  Yes but for now I would suggest just the PSU as the price of RAM is high atm.

                  Do you know how to get into the BIOS, if yes, restart to access the BIOS and see if you can find any temps and +3.3, +5 and +12V voltage readings, make a note of what you find then post the info here, while in the BIOS can you also look for a setting such as restore factory defaults, most stable or optimised settings, again can you make a note and post the info here.

                  Going offline now as I am up at 5am and it is getting late here, will be back after work tomorrow sometime.

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                  • rclum
                    PCHF Member
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Hi Phil,

                    I built the PC with some friends about a year ago. It’s possible we didn’t apply the paste perfectly.

                    Ok, I’ll uninstall AVG, thanks for letting me know.

                    Alright, I’ll look into the list you posted earlier for a new PSU.

                    Here are my voltage readings:

                    +3.3V: 3.324 V
                    +5V: 5.010 V
                    +12V: 12.168 V

                    In BIOS, my CPU is sitting at around 65-66 C.

                    There’s a setting for “Load Optimized Defaults.”

                    Thanks for all your help, Phil.

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                    • rclum
                      PCHF Member
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Hello again,

                      I changed out my PSU for an EVGA 500b, which isn’t too much better, but at least a tier up. I also replaced the thermal paste between the CPU and the CPU fan, and cleaned the dust out of my case.

                      Here’s a current screenshot: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/l...hNShp5VncCed4i (I was downloading a game while this was running)

                      Generally CPU temps are down by half! But The GPU is still running pretty hot and the VIN voltages are still a little high. Is there anything I can do software-wise to fix these?

                      Thanks!

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15205

                        #12
                        CPU temp is much better but agreed the GPU temps are still a bit high.

                        Voltage readings are fine but can I ask how is the computer behaving in general atm.

                        I may not be around this evening or tomorrow due to other commitments, apologies for any inconvenience

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                        • rclum
                          PCHF Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 7

                          #13
                          Hi Phil,

                          Sorry for the late response, I’ve been busy with school.

                          The PC is currently running fine, the fans are a bit loud but I’d rather have them loud than a hot CPU.

                          I dusted my graphics card, and it’s now holding steadily around 45-47 C when idling and 60-70 C when working.

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15205

                            #14
                            No worries, been busy myself

                            Sounds like things are sorted then, can you let us know if you consider your issue resolved.

                            Below is a post I found elsewhere regarding your GPUs temps;

                            The safe temp stated by the Nvidia specs are 83 degrees celsius when throttling starts. The card will stop working at 92 degrees celsius to prevent any damage. Usually those chips can withstand 100+ degrees before any damage so you should be safe. If you like to do crypto currency mining or mashine learning, set the max temp (point where the software throttles down to cool the chip) to 82 degrees and you should always have full power. If you like a low noise gaming experience, play with the tempature curve in tools like MSI Afterburner while you stress your gpu with a decent benchmark (Heaven for example). The lowest possible noise should hold jour gpu under full load at 80 degrees after burning in for an hour.
                            Don’t be afraid, you can’t damage the card at all even with overclocking (until to the point where you start tinkering with the board) and there is no such thing as chip degredation. Only overheat wich the card self protects against.

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