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  • ciccio
    PCHF Member
    • Sep 2022
    • 25

    #16
    Hi all,

    sorry for my delay, long weekend and busy Monday at work

    I added 2 case fans, just as example to check the characteristics.
    The case can support 2 140mm or 3 120mm on the top and 3 120mm on bottom and side.

    About the disks, I still have some questions, for now I put 2x1TB SSD, but I am always open to suggestions.

    Maybe it’s better if I explain what type of software I want to run and why I wanted the dual boot and this is related to the type and number of disks I need.

    The software I am going to use are toolkits which simulate physics phenomena, for example GEANT4 for the interaction particle-matter or NEMO used for ocean fluid dynamics simulation and they all run in Unix-like systems.

    Of course this software are run on HPC for big projects, but for small experiments a PC should be fine.

    In principle they could run also on my early-2011 MacbookPro and I did, but it’s extremely old, it takes ages to open an IDE or compile a source code…

    I want also a Windows partition because the target of some of the software I am developing are Windows users (and of course for gaming ).

    This is the reason why I wanted the dual boot, so to use the whole machine for them and not just a part in case of VM.

    Thanks again for you help
    Ciccio

    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler
    Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste
    Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
    Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
    Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
    Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming X12G GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Video Card
    Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case
    Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case Fan: Noctua A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan
    Case Fan: Noctua F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.89 CFM 120 mm Fan

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    • Pyro
      PCHF Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 1189

      #17
      I’d go for the larger fans whenever possible, they’re quieter and can move more air.

      Still hoping maybe a double-fan cpu cooler?

      I think 2x 1tb drives will be just fine, there’s always room for expansion with SATA drives as well. Could assign one to each OS if you were particularly bent on it, otherwise a dual boot sounds like an acceptable solution.

      +1 for the uninterruptible power supply as recommended above, they’re a game changer.

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      • ciccio
        PCHF Member
        • Sep 2022
        • 25

        #18
        About the fans, how many of them? Do I have to fill of the available slots?

        I am going to take a double-fan cooler, just I didn’t find a Noctua one in that list and I didn’t change it, but I will try somewhere else.

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        • Bruce
          PCHF Moderator
          • Oct 2017
          • 10702

          #19
          no need to fill the case with fans.
          one for intake and one for exhaust is plenty.
          a single fan on the CPU’s heatsink should do for now. those Noctua’s for example are very good.
          most of the 3rd party coolers just use a standard case fan so you can always add another later as long as you get a double sided heatsink but the price difference is minimal so really, it won’t matter too much.

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          • ciccio
            PCHF Member
            • Sep 2022
            • 25

            #20
            I think we have the winner here
            Now I have just to buy all the parts and build it, hoping that everything goes well

            Thanks a lot to all of you for the really useful advices!

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            • Pyro
              PCHF Member
              • Jan 2019
              • 1189

              #21
              Personally, I’d go for the two 140mm intakes + an exhaust. Once again, these 30 series GPUs run very hot, as Bruce suggested though, it’s not as though you can’t add more down the line.

              When I build a gaming or heavy duty machine, especially one that can use PWM fans (variable speed), I like to go a little overboard, temps + performance are far more important to me than noise, but you may think different.

              All in all you have a really good starting point, and if you ever decide to change things that’s perfectly doable.

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              • ciccio
                PCHF Member
                • Sep 2022
                • 25

                #22
                I agree, this would be a starting point, if I realise I need some extra components, I can add them

                Thanks again for the help

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                • Bruce
                  PCHF Moderator
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 10702

                  #23
                  if you have never built before, without insulting your intelligence, all I’ll say is a) take your time, and if in doubt b) ask for help.

                  let’s face it, even Superman found it difficult on his first time;

                  [MEDIA=youtube]G2gYUVQrLzQ[/MEDIA]

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                  • ciccio
                    PCHF Member
                    • Sep 2022
                    • 25

                    #24
                    Absolutely I agree 100% with both of you

                    I built some PCs, but we are talking about 20 or more years ago…

                    I am collecting and restoring old game consoles but it’s a different story.

                    Just a bit worried about the CPU, I have to be careful when I assemble it.

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                    • PeterOz
                      PCHF Technical Response Team
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 4191

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ciccio
                      Just a bit worried about the CPU, I have to be careful when I assemble it.
                      Anti static strap.
                      Lineup the triangles - NO FORCE When placing cpu or using the locking bar
                      Apply Thermal Paste Click On Me to CPU Everyone has a different method.
                      The aim is a nice covering Too little = Bad, Too much = Bad (Think Goldilocks and the three bears).

                      heatsink/fan Click On Me for AMD

                      If any doubts, ASK here that is what we are here for

                      Please let us know how it goes

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                      • PeterOz
                        PCHF Technical Response Team
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 4191

                        #26
                        Does this help

                        [MEDIA=youtube]IP7HsNWSY4o[/MEDIA]

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                        • ciccio
                          PCHF Member
                          • Sep 2022
                          • 25

                          #27
                          @PeterOz thanks that helps

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                          • Bruce
                            PCHF Moderator
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 10702

                            #28
                            @ciccio - any news?

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                            • ciccio
                              PCHF Member
                              • Sep 2022
                              • 25

                              #29
                              Hi @Bruce I think this thread can be considered solved (I don’t know how to do it) as next week I am going to buy the parts in the last configuration.

                              If I have any problems during the assembly I am going to open another thread

                              Thanks again!

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                              • Bruce
                                PCHF Moderator
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 10702

                                #30
                                no worries, any issues, of course get back to us.
                                good luck.

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