New build - unable to install fans due to clearance. Cables in the way - needing advice

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  • stillmat1k
    PCHF Member
    • Apr 2022
    • 10

    #16
    Originally posted by Bruce
    with fans, you either are in the neutral, negative or positive camp.
    that is, the cubic cm’s of air being sucked in matches that being sucked out, or is less than, or is greater than.

    I like to setup a positive pressure case - more intake fans than there are exhaust fans, that way heat has only one way to go - out.

    but you do have way too many; 2 on the PSU, 2 on the AiO, 2 bottom case fans, with maybe more to come.

    and that processor heatsink, sitting off centre over the CPU looks just wrong.
    sounds like it is suppose to sit like that, chiplets and all, but to me there is still a bit of silicon not being cooled and part of the heatsink extending into thin air - just looks weird.

    I have my water pump twisted 90 degrees due to the tube length and where I fit the radiator, so whatever works.

    can the water pump be rotated, and still fit into the mobo anchor points, and then cover the processor better?
    Yeah currently 3 fans on the side and 3 fans at the bottom are working as intake and the two on the AIO at the top are exhaust. There’s a small gap on the case at the top that’s empty since my AIO only has 2 fans. Not sure how much this is affecting airflow if any.

    Also is it bad that I don’t have anything in the back? i can order a smaller fan that will fit but at this point I think it would be overkill.

    Regarding the heatsink sitting off center… I made a post above, not sure if you saw it, but it’s actually meant to sit off center. Pasting the original post below for reference. I agree that it looks strange, but apparently, it’s more efficient this way.
    So I double checked and everything is put on correctly. Check out the preparation guide for the AM4 here ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 Rev 4 - User Manual you’ll see that I went with the #2: AM4 Ryzen 3000/5000 offset mounting. “AMD Ryzen 3000/5000 series processor has a chiplet-based CPU construction. It shifts the hot spots from center of the package to bottom side. To provide better cooling to the hot chiplets, Liquid Freezer II provides an offset mounting, so that the cooler is in the optimal position.” I think this literally makes it so that it’s not fully mounted and in turn is not covering the entire CPU. Unless I’m misunderstanding this whole thing… I tried to research to find info or images to confirm but haven’t found anything yet.

    So a little force is okay for the tubes? There was a decent amount of pressure I had to apply to get it how I wanted it so I just left it as is but would prefer changing it so it looks cleaner and isn’t blocking the side fans.

    Rotating the fan won’t cover anymore of the CPU. The only thing that would happen is the upper part of the CPU wouldn’t be covered fully rather than the lower part. Apparently the part that’s currently covered with this layout is the part that runs hot which is why it’s supposed to be mounted this way.

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    • PeterOz
      PCHF Technical Response Team
      • Mar 2021
      • 4181

      #17
      Yeah the site says offset is the way to go
      Try and see

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      • stillmat1k
        PCHF Member
        • Apr 2022
        • 10

        #18
        Originally posted by phillpower2
        Pull/push method, two fans in the front to draw in cool clean air and one big exhaust fan at the real to expel the hot air, any other fans are either a bonus or cosmetic, equally as important are good internal cable management, adequate clear air space around the PC and a low ambient room temperature.
        My case doesn’t have a front and is replaced by the side fans. But yeah shouldn’t be an issue here as far as air flow. 3 on the side and 3 on the bottom intaking and 2 on the aio at the top as exhaust. I can get one more for the rear but I think it’s unnecessary. Again definitely overkill as it sits now but it’s mostly for aesthetics. Cable management was done right so should be okay there as well. Thanks for the input!

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        • PeterOz
          PCHF Technical Response Team
          • Mar 2021
          • 4181

          #19
          turn on and see

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 10697

            #20
            with the AiO acting as exhaust fans, you are pushing already heated air over the radiator vanes.
            I’d change it to act as an intake system, getting clean, cool air from the get-go.

            and I don’t like the fans on the bottom, how their grill holes are not very substantial.
            almost as if that bottom plate wasn’t really meant for fans, more likely a PSU?
            where does the PSU go in that case?

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            • stillmat1k
              PCHF Member
              • Apr 2022
              • 10

              #21
              Originally posted by Bruce
              with the AiO acting as exhaust fans, you are pushing already heated air over the radiator vanes.
              I’d change it to act as an intake system, getting clean, cool air from the get-go.

              and I don’t like the fans on the bottom, how their grill holes are not very substantial.
              almost as if that bottom plate wasn’t really meant for fans, more likely a PSU?
              where does the PSU go in that case?
              I’ve done a lot of research and most recommend this approach to get optimal cooling. Check out this page this is the case it’ll give you some insight and close up images of where things go. The PSU goes in the back https://lian-li.com/product/pc-o11-dynamic/

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 10697

                #22
                no worries.
                any updates?

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                • stillmat1k
                  PCHF Member
                  • Apr 2022
                  • 10

                  #23
                  Finished product attached if anyone was curious how it came out. I also attached stats from HW monitor on idle / very light load. Edge with 20 windows or so open and a couple of programs (Battlenet client, Foobar, and Noisegator). Everything looks pretty good to me but if anyone has some input I’m all ears. I noticed my CPU was running hot (60 degrees or so) but I researched and the AMD Ryzen 9 5900x actually runs hot and is normal at these temperatures. I still need to track the temperatures on heavy load when gaming to see what they look like and will update again when I have that. Otherwise I’m very happy with the way things turned out! My cat loved sitting on top of my PC since it got so damn hot (he loves anything hot) but I probably won’t let him sit on this one lol.

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                  • stillmat1k
                    PCHF Member
                    • Apr 2022
                    • 10

                    #24
                    Originally posted by stillmat1k
                    Finished product attached if anyone was curious how it came out. I also attached stats from HW monitor on idle / very light load. Edge with 20 windows or so open and a couple of programs (Battlenet client, Foobar, and Noisegator). Everything looks pretty good to me but if anyone has some input I’m all ears. I noticed my CPU was running hot (60 degrees or so) but I researched and the AMD Ryzen 9 5900x actually runs hot and is normal at these temperatures. I still need to track the temperatures on heavy load when gaming to see what they look like and will update again when I have that. Otherwise I’m very happy with the way things turned out! My cat loved sitting on top of my PC since it got so **** hot (he loves anything hot) but I probably won’t let him sit on this one lol.
                    For some reason it only let me attach one thing… Here’s a pic of the finished build. The Hardware Monitor stats are in my previous message

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                    • PeterOz
                      PCHF Technical Response Team
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 4181

                      #25
                      looking good
                      where is the power supply
                      60 is fine
                      cat is bad

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                      • stillmat1k
                        PCHF Member
                        • Apr 2022
                        • 10

                        #26
                        Originally posted by PeterOz
                        looking good
                        where is the power supply
                        60 is fine
                        cat is bad
                        Power supply… what’s that? Lol jk. This case is short but wide, making room to fit the PSU in the back behind the mobo. Makes it look much cleaner this way. Honestly a great well-designed case

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                        • Bruce
                          PCHF Member
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 10697

                          #27
                          glad you sorted it all out. (y)

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