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  • Rustys
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7862

    #16
    The other think you have to remember that all of the other hardware in that system will pull wattage to run them as well.

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    • coolhandluke
      PCHF Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 121

      #17
      Originally posted by vger
      You simply do not have enough wattage even with a 240 watt psu,yours is 180 watts…the 1050 ti sc minimum wattage is 320 watts..
      Check this link… http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
      I don’t know for sure and I don’t know if we have established it yet, but is the psu 180 cause I talked to a dell technician and he said the psu should be 240… That being said, the link I posted in my last reply before this one shows the you that is currently in there (an amd Radeon r9 360 oem) which supposedly pulls 85 watts from the motherboard and has a minimum wattage requirement of 400 something… If that is true then how is that graphics card (the one currently in there) and the psu (also currently in there) not co pletely fried and broken?

      Cheers

      Luke

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      • Rustys
        PCHF Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 7862

        #18
        Originally posted by coolhandluke
        Power Supply is supposedly 240 watts
        Here is where it states it is a 180 Watt.
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        • coolhandluke
          PCHF Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 121

          #19
          Originally posted by Rustys
          Here is where it states it is a 180 Watt.
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          Ok so I assumed correctly and the dell person is wrong… That being said, as far as the graphics card that is already in there… How is it getting enough power?

          -Luke

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          • veeg
            PCHF Director
            • Jul 2016
            • 8978

            #20
            Originally posted by coolhandluke
            Ok so I assumed correctly and the dell person is wrong… That being said, as far as the graphics card that is already in there… How is it getting enough power?

            -Luke
            Have a look.. Integrated vs Dedicated graphics card: Which is best for your laptop? | Top Ten Reviews

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            • Evan_Omo
              PCHF Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 1257

              #21
              My friend that I spoke to said that the 1050 won’t run off of the power supply unit and instead would run off of the motherboard alone. Is that correct? If it is, would it still not work because the card says 300 watts and the power supply is only 180?
              As Rusty stated previously, your other hardware components will also use power from the power supply so even if the video card only uses 75 watts, that only leaves 180 - 75 = 105 watts left to run everything else.

              The manufacturers of video cards say a minimum wattage amount is needed for a reason so since the NVIDIA GTX 1050 recommends using a 300 watt power supply, using anything less than that can either damage the power supply or cause erratic behavior on the system because the power supply may not be able to handle the increased power load being put on the unit.

              Therefore, you can upgrade to that video card at your own risk but if it was me, I would not waste money or time trying to upgrade that system as it wasn’t designed with upgradeability in mind.
              That being said, as far as the graphics card that is already in there… How is it getting enough power?
              Well that power supply can barely run the card even though the AMD Radeon RX 360 requires a 400 watt power supply. But keep in mind that the video card you have is an OEM version which means its clocked lower than the custom versions of that same card and because your CPU is a low power chip which means that both your video card and your CPU are using a lot less power than a regular desktop CPU would use and the video card being an OEM version is also using less power than a custom version of that same card would use.

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              • coolhandluke
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2016
                • 121

                #22
                I don’t get how the thread is related… As far as the desktop we are talking about… How is the graphics card, that is in there, drawing enough power especially if the min wattage for said card is apparently 420 watts…

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                • veeg
                  PCHF Director
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 8978

                  #23
                  Originally posted by coolhandluke
                  I don’t get how the thread is related… As far as the desktop we are talking about… How is the graphics card, that is in there, drawing enough power especially if the min wattage for said card is apparently 420 watts…
                  It explains the difference of the power being drawn between an integrated graphics and a dedicated card…

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                  • coolhandluke
                    PCHF Member
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 121

                    #24
                    Originally posted by vger
                    It explains the difference of the power being drawn between an integrated graphics and a dedicated card…
                    So does this mean that the card will drain power from the motherboard at 75 watts with a 180 watt psu?

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                    • veeg
                      PCHF Director
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 8978

                      #25
                      Originally posted by coolhandluke
                      So does this mean that the card will drain power from the motherboard at 75 watts with a 180 watt psu?
                      The integrated graphics are designed to consume less power and produce less heat…this is the reason it has limits… A dedicated card design is what you can afford and if your pc is up to spec’s to run the that card without bottle necking..meaning that the cpu can’t process fast enough of the data it is receiving..

                      At this point we are beating a dead horse here…You simply do not enough wattage with your current psu..for what you are wanting you will need at least a 300/320 watt psu…these are facts and no way to get around this… Now if you want to proceed with your upgrade please do…but we here ,have gave you what we know and upgrading that type pc is a waste of time..

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                      • system
                        PCHF Owner
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 7634

                        #26
                        The PC you have is very limited in its ability and VERY moderately specced, would suggest not spending any more money on it, but save up and buy something more suitable to gaming..

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                        • coolhandluke
                          PCHF Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 121

                          #27
                          I get all of that but this computer is very confusing… There is already a graphics card in it… an AMD Radeon R9 360 - 2GB WHICH if you look at the minimum wattage requirements for it, it says it needs a PSU with a minimum of 450 watts… That being said, how is this computer running it if the PSU is only 180?

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                          • Evan_Omo
                            PCHF Member
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1257

                            #28
                            I already answered your above question:
                            That being said, how is this computer running it if the PSU is only 180?
                            Well that power supply can barely run the card even though the AMD Radeon RX 360 requires a 400 watt power supply. But keep in mind that the video card you have is an OEM version which means its clocked lower than the custom versions of that same card and because your CPU is a low power chip which means that both your video card and your CPU are using a lot less power than a regular desktop CPU would use and the video card being an OEM version is also using less power than a custom version of that same card would use.
                            That power supply is already struggling to run that video card so putting in any video card that is faster than the AMD Radeon RX 360 is going to further strain the power supply even more which could cause damage to both the power supply or the new video card. You are taking a risk by installing a video card that uses more power than the one that is already in the system. If you accept the risk of this then by all means go ahead and install a faster video card but just know that your current computer was not designed for upgrading the CPU, motherboard, or power supply.

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                            • coolhandluke
                              PCHF Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 121

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Evan Omo
                              I already answered your above question:

                              That power supply is already struggling to run that video card so putting in any video card that is faster than the AMD Radeon RX 360 is going to further strain the power supply even more which could cause damage to both the power supply or the new video card. You are taking a risk by installing a video card that uses more power than the one that is already in the system. If you accept the risk of this then by all means go ahead and install a faster video card but just know that your current computer was not designed for upgrading the CPU, motherboard, or power supply.
                              So if a GTX 1050 Ti SC 4GB like the one I linked is a more consuming card than the r9 360?

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                              • system
                                PCHF Owner
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 7634

                                #30
                                Originally posted by coolhandluke
                                So if a GTX 1050 Ti SC 4GB like the one I linked is a more consuming card than the r9 360?
                                Do some research HERE

                                The picture you posted earlier shows a pretty low level who knows what model card, not a r9 360.

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