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  • chzuck
    PCHF Member
    • Oct 2023
    • 5

    #1

    HP ZBook Freezes

    I have an HP ZBook 15 G3 that has developed a problem. If picked up by the lower left hand corner the screen freezes. nothing responds. The only way to shut if down is to hold the power button down. I can restart and it will work fine until it is bumped or picked up on the left lower side. Looking for some trouble shooting ideas, please.
    I have eliminated by battery by disconnecting and running on AC power.
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8982

    #2
    Hello

    Are there any cracks in the case ?

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    • xrobwx71
      PCHF Moderator
      • Mar 2023
      • 1067

      #3
      Originally posted by veeg
      Hello

      Are there any cracks in the case ?
      Or the screen? Pay attention to the screen hinges as well.

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      • chzuck
        PCHF Member
        • Oct 2023
        • 5

        #4
        No cracks visible anywhere.
        I can cause some lines on the monitor by putting pressure on the left lower corner of the laptop. Seems like something in that area is the problem. I will remove the battery and see what is under there and if anything looks suspect.

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        • georgeks
          PCHF Member
          • May 2017
          • 335

          #5
          This is a sign of BGA failure (Ball Grid Array failure).

          It means that a soldering of a component is cracked/failed.
          Was much more often seen around 1995-2005 when the transition from lead to non-lead soldering took place.

          Non-led soldering requires higher temperatures and the tools available at that time could not -always- deliver.

          HP submitted to us technical personnel -I was Senior Repair technician at HP Financial Services back then..-a rough test:

          If a system exhibited intermittent failures, let the system run on a flat surface for some time and then lift it from a corner.

          If anything happens, BGA failure is the prime suspect.

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          • chzuck
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2023
            • 5

            #6
            Originally posted by georgeks
            This is a sign of BGA failure (Ball Grid Array failure).

            It means that a soldering of a component is cracked/failed.
            Was much more often seen around 1995-2005 when the transition from lead to non-lead soldering took place.

            Non-led soldering requires higher temperatures and the tools available at that time could not -always- deliver.

            HP submitted to us technical personnel -I was Senior Repair technician at HP Financial Services back then..-a rough test:

            If a system exhibited intermittent failures, let the system run on a flat surface for some time and then lift it from a corner.

            If anything happens, BGA failure is the prime suspect.
            So, how to find the problem area? Could it be isolated to that corner where I apply pressure to make the event happen?

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            • georgeks
              PCHF Member
              • May 2017
              • 335

              #7
              No, I am sorry, they didn’t tell us that.

              Maybe opening it and inspecting the M/B on that area with a magnifying glass will get you some information.

              Believe it or not, I’ve had some information of companies buying those motherboards and treating/fixing them in ovens!!

              Have a look here: HP ZBook 15 G3

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              • chzuck
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2023
                • 5

                #8
                OK, thanks. At least I know more than I did before.

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