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  • Slug12
    PCHF Member
    • May 2025
    • 7

    #1

    Slow Wifi

    I’ve been having slow wifi on my computer; Ryzen 5 5600g, with a 3060ti, a asrock PG riptide micro b550, and 16gb of ram. It has a ax200 wifi card, but I’m not even getting close to the advertised speeds of the card. I constantly get ~12 mbps max on downloading from steam, while my laptop in the same location gets over 80mbps, which has a ax211 wifi card. On my pc I have a wifi antenna as well as the cables that run from the wifi card that convert it into the connection that connect to the antenna. The antenna didn’t come with the wifi card, I think another b550 mobo but not mine. Anyways, I’m curious what the problem is, and why it is so slow, since it should definetly be faster than my laptop with a stronger antenna. [ATTACH type=“full” width=“153px” size=“1600x1600”]15389[/ATTACH]
  • Bruce
    PCHF Moderator
    • Oct 2017
    • 10702

    #2
    Let’s check the dumb stuff first.

    Make sure your wireless cards have the latest drivers.
    Log onto the modem/router and check for the latest firmware.
    While in the config menu of the modem, get the values for line attenuation and signal to noise ratio, both are measured in Db’s. And it should show your line speed (up and down), see what the modem is actually achieving. This will be your baseline, the best you’ll get despite the advertised speeds of your wireless hardware and internet provider plan.

    And reboot the modem as well. (y)

    Move the modem or PC closer together and try an ethernet cable and check that speed.

    Forget the advertised speed of the AX200 - they are tested in a lab, in ideal conditions and are, at best, theoretical and at worst, misleading, unachievable, sales pitched marketing.

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    • Bruce
      PCHF Moderator
      • Oct 2017
      • 10702

      #3
      Let’s check the dumb stuff first.

      Make sure your wireless cards have the latest drivers.
      Log onto the modem/router and check for the latest firmware.
      While in the config menu of the modem, get the values for line attenuation and signal to noise ratio, both are measured in Db’s. And it should show your line speed (up and down), see what the modem is actually achieving. This will be your baseline, the best you’ll get despite the advertised speeds of your wireless hardware and internet provider plan.

      And reboot the modem as well. (y)

      Move the modem or PC closer together and try an ethernet cable and check that speed.

      Forget the advertised speed of the AX200 - they are tested in a lab, in ideal conditions and are, at best, theoretical and at worst, misleading, unachievable, sales pitched marketing.

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      • Slug12
        PCHF Member
        • May 2025
        • 7

        #4
        Originally posted by Bruce
        Let’s check the dumb stuff first.

        Make sure your wireless cards have the latest drivers.
        Log onto the modem/router and check for the latest firmware.
        While in the config menu of the modem, get the values for line attenuation and signal to noise ratio, both are measured in Db’s. And it should show your line speed (up and down), see what the modem is actually achieving. This will be your baseline, the best you’ll get despite the advertised speeds of your wireless hardware and internet provider plan.

        And reboot the modem as well. (y)

        Move the modem or PC closer together and try an ethernet cable and check that speed.

        Forget the advertised speed of the AX200 - they are tested in a lab, in ideal conditions and are, at best, theoretical and at worst, misleading, unachievable, sales pitched marketing.
        My drivers are all the most recent, and the modem and router have the latest firmware. The modem is getting full speed, and my router to the modem constantly hits high 700s to 800 megabytes per second down, which is what the plan is. The Db is -48, and I do not have the ability to run a long ethernet cable, or seriously moving the router and ethernet. My pc is set to priortize 5ghz, and it says it is connected at 5ghz, to the -48 to -50 wifi. I am running mesh wifi, but it seems to be using the strongest signal. I cannot check the noise level, although windows says my signal is 87%.

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        • Slug12
          PCHF Member
          • May 2025
          • 7

          #5
          Originally posted by Bruce
          Let’s check the dumb stuff first.

          Make sure your wireless cards have the latest drivers.
          Log onto the modem/router and check for the latest firmware.
          While in the config menu of the modem, get the values for line attenuation and signal to noise ratio, both are measured in Db’s. And it should show your line speed (up and down), see what the modem is actually achieving. This will be your baseline, the best you’ll get despite the advertised speeds of your wireless hardware and internet provider plan.

          And reboot the modem as well. (y)

          Move the modem or PC closer together and try an ethernet cable and check that speed.

          Forget the advertised speed of the AX200 - they are tested in a lab, in ideal conditions and are, at best, theoretical and at worst, misleading, unachievable, sales pitched marketing.
          My drivers are all the most recent, and the modem and router have the latest firmware. The modem is getting full speed, and my router to the modem constantly hits high 700s to 800 megabytes per second down, which is what the plan is. The Db is -48, and I do not have the ability to run a long ethernet cable, or seriously moving the router and ethernet. My pc is set to priortize 5ghz, and it says it is connected at 5ghz, to the -48 to -50 wifi. I am running mesh wifi, but it seems to be using the strongest signal. I cannot check the noise level, although windows says my signal is 87%.

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Moderator
            • Oct 2017
            • 10702

            #6
            OK, there are a few devices in the chain to get from your PC to the internet - a meshed wifi network, router, and modem.
            Windows 87% would probably be it’s speed/strength to the first link in that chain, it won’t see past that.
            And you’ll only be as fast as the slowest component in that chain.

            Also check (if you can) what the Db is of the antenna, since it didn’t come with the card.
            Perhaps the card doesn’t support high-gain or multi-directional antennas. So find out what the card expects, and what the antenna is.
            Depending on what the antenna came off, it may not even be operating in the normal wifi frequency band.

            And yes, it sucks either moving the PC or the network hardware, but removing as much extra links in the chain will help you identify where in the network you should be looking.

            For example, connect the PC straight to the modem, bypassing the mesh network and router, and still have it go slow would point the blame at the modem or PC itself, ruling out spend time looking for a wireless issue that isn’t there.
            Unless the PC is a tank, you only need to move the tower, monitor, keyboard and mouse.
            You can run up to 100m of ethernet cable before it needs something like a switch or hub to ‘re-power’ the cable, so that might be an option if the modem is within 100m.

            Has the wireless speed always been slow, from the first day you used the AX200 card, or is the speed drop a recent issue?

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            • Bruce
              PCHF Moderator
              • Oct 2017
              • 10702

              #7
              OK, there are a few devices in the chain to get from your PC to the internet - a meshed wifi network, router, and modem.
              Windows 87% would probably be it’s speed/strength to the first link in that chain, it won’t see past that.
              And you’ll only be as fast as the slowest component in that chain.

              Also check (if you can) what the Db is of the antenna, since it didn’t come with the card.
              Perhaps the card doesn’t support high-gain or multi-directional antennas. So find out what the card expects, and what the antenna is.
              Depending on what the antenna came off, it may not even be operating in the normal wifi frequency band.

              And yes, it sucks either moving the PC or the network hardware, but removing as much extra links in the chain will help you identify where in the network you should be looking.

              For example, connect the PC straight to the modem, bypassing the mesh network and router, and still have it go slow would point the blame at the modem or PC itself, ruling out spend time looking for a wireless issue that isn’t there.
              Unless the PC is a tank, you only need to move the tower, monitor, keyboard and mouse.
              You can run up to 100m of ethernet cable before it needs something like a switch or hub to ‘re-power’ the cable, so that might be an option if the modem is within 100m.

              Has the wireless speed always been slow, from the first day you used the AX200 card, or is the speed drop a recent issue?

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Moderator
                • Oct 2017
                • 10702

                #8
                @Slug12 - where we at?

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                • Bruce
                  PCHF Moderator
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 10702

                  #9
                  @Slug12 - where we at?

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                  • Slug12
                    PCHF Member
                    • May 2025
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bruce
                    OK, there are a few devices in the chain to get from your PC to the internet - a meshed wifi network, router, and modem.
                    Windows 87% would probably be it’s speed/strength to the first link in that chain, it won’t see past that.
                    And you’ll only be as fast as the slowest component in that chain.

                    Also check (if you can) what the Db is of the antenna, since it didn’t come with the card.
                    Perhaps the card doesn’t support high-gain or multi-directional antennas. So find out what the card expects, and what the antenna is.
                    Depending on what the antenna came off, it may not even be operating in the normal wifi frequency band.

                    And yes, it sucks either moving the PC or the network hardware, but removing as much extra links in the chain will help you identify where in the network you should be looking.

                    For example, connect the PC straight to the modem, bypassing the mesh network and router, and still have it go slow would point the blame at the modem or PC itself, ruling out spend time looking for a wireless issue that isn’t there.
                    Unless the PC is a tank, you only need to move the tower, monitor, keyboard and mouse.
                    You can run up to 100m of ethernet cable before it needs something like a switch or hub to ‘re-power’ the cable, so that might be an option if the modem is within 100m.

                    Has the wireless speed always been slow, from the first day you used the AX200 card, or is the speed drop a recent issue?
                    The db I mentioned were measured with the antenna, and the card has always been slow. Not sure if it’s a defect. Perhaps I should put it in my laptop to see? I can’t really run cables since my house is so old and putting holes in such walls is a pain unless it’s with other work with walls. My pc is pretty big for a microatx, but I’m sure the wifi speed coming off the router and the modem are pretty fast. The modem comes from my isp (XB7 modem), which also has a router but I have it in bridge mode connected to a mr60 for mesh. I think I may just buy a pcie adapter to connect to the wifi cable perhaps or just a wifi adapter that fits in the pcie slot

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                    • Slug12
                      PCHF Member
                      • May 2025
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bruce
                      OK, there are a few devices in the chain to get from your PC to the internet - a meshed wifi network, router, and modem.
                      Windows 87% would probably be it’s speed/strength to the first link in that chain, it won’t see past that.
                      And you’ll only be as fast as the slowest component in that chain.

                      Also check (if you can) what the Db is of the antenna, since it didn’t come with the card.
                      Perhaps the card doesn’t support high-gain or multi-directional antennas. So find out what the card expects, and what the antenna is.
                      Depending on what the antenna came off, it may not even be operating in the normal wifi frequency band.

                      And yes, it sucks either moving the PC or the network hardware, but removing as much extra links in the chain will help you identify where in the network you should be looking.

                      For example, connect the PC straight to the modem, bypassing the mesh network and router, and still have it go slow would point the blame at the modem or PC itself, ruling out spend time looking for a wireless issue that isn’t there.
                      Unless the PC is a tank, you only need to move the tower, monitor, keyboard and mouse.
                      You can run up to 100m of ethernet cable before it needs something like a switch or hub to ‘re-power’ the cable, so that might be an option if the modem is within 100m.

                      Has the wireless speed always been slow, from the first day you used the AX200 card, or is the speed drop a recent issue?
                      The db I mentioned were measured with the antenna, and the card has always been slow. Not sure if it’s a defect. Perhaps I should put it in my laptop to see? I can’t really run cables since my house is so old and putting holes in such walls is a pain unless it’s with other work with walls. My pc is pretty big for a microatx, but I’m sure the wifi speed coming off the router and the modem are pretty fast. The modem comes from my isp (XB7 modem), which also has a router but I have it in bridge mode connected to a mr60 for mesh. I think I may just buy a pcie adapter to connect to the wifi cable perhaps or just a wifi adapter that fits in the pcie slot

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                      • Malnutrition
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7045

                        #12
                        Open PowerShell or CMD and run
                        netsh wlan show interfaces

                        • Check “Radio type” – should say 802.11ax (or ac).
                        • Check “Channel” – if it is in the 30x/40x range you are on 5 GHz; single-digit or teens means 2.4 GHz.
                        • Check “Receive rate / Transmit rate” – anything under about 400 Mb/s confirms you are on one stream or a 20 MHz channel.






                        Let’s see what’s going on, with the settings.

                        Please download MiniToolBox and save it to your desktop.
                        Run the program by right clicking on it and selecting Run as administrator.
                        When the program opens check mark Select All Then hit GO
                        Please post the log in your next reply. Attach or copy and paste, whatever is easier for you.







                        Speccy Scan.

                        [ul]
                        [li]Please go here and download Speccy.[/li][li]Install and run the program.[/li][li]Upon Completion:[/li][li]Hit File[/li][li]Publish Snap Shot[/li][li]A link will appear, post that link.[/li][/ul]

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                        • Malnutrition
                          PCHF Moderator
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7045

                          #13
                          Open PowerShell or CMD and run
                          netsh wlan show interfaces

                          • Check “Radio type” – should say 802.11ax (or ac).
                          • Check “Channel” – if it is in the 30x/40x range you are on 5 GHz; single-digit or teens means 2.4 GHz.
                          • Check “Receive rate / Transmit rate” – anything under about 400 Mb/s confirms you are on one stream or a 20 MHz channel.






                          Let’s see what’s going on, with the settings.

                          Please download MiniToolBox and save it to your desktop.
                          Run the program by right clicking on it and selecting Run as administrator.
                          When the program opens check mark Select All Then hit GO
                          Please post the log in your next reply. Attach or copy and paste, whatever is easier for you.







                          Speccy Scan.

                          [ul]
                          [li]Please go here and download Speccy.[/li][li]Install and run the program.[/li][li]Upon Completion:[/li][li]Hit File[/li][li]Publish Snap Shot[/li][li]A link will appear, post that link.[/li][/ul]

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                          • Slug12
                            PCHF Member
                            • May 2025
                            • 7

                            #14
                            802.11ax, channel 48, recieve/transmit 681/961 Mbps. Also I am not comfortable sending a full log from if it has my ip or other detailing information, is there a certain part you need? especially since it is super long

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                            • Slug12
                              PCHF Member
                              • May 2025
                              • 7

                              #15
                              802.11ax, channel 48, recieve/transmit 681/961 Mbps. Also I am not comfortable sending a full log from if it has my ip or other detailing information, is there a certain part you need? especially since it is super long

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