help upgrade

[Enrique]

Hi, I want to upgrade my computer, the model is HP24 - CB1006LA, some software tells me that it is only compatible with slow SATA SSDs.
But doing an analysis with the speccy program, it turns out that it has an NVMe KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA and also the manufacturer’s page says that the ssd is nmve.
I add links

https://www.hp.com/co-es/shop/todo-en-uno-hp-24-cb1006la-69k52la.html

now the question is can I use a fourth generation nvme SSD, with very high performance?
for example ADATA LEGEND 900 SLEG-900-512GCS
computer also have
Intel Core i5 1235U
and motherboard Model 89E8 (U3E1)

I await your reply, best regards

[phillpower2]

Hello Enrique,

Honest answer is to leave the present SSD and instead upgrade the RAM and purchase an external USB SSD.

Reasons for the above include, the present SSD is just enough for Windows on its own, upgrading the SSD would involve removing the present SSD and fitting the new one then having to clean install Windows and the system drivers, you would also be left with an SSD that you cannot use.

Adding more RAM would speed up all round performance and using an external USB storage device removes all of the above explained hassle, doesn’t leave you with an SSD that you cannot use and last but certainly not least it will make backing up Windows so much easier.

[Enrique]

thanks for your answer, but it is necessary to change the SSD because it is giving me problems, for this reason I want to put one with better performance

[phillpower2]

Understood (y)

No need to purchase from them but use the Crucial system scanner tool to see what they advise, use the info that they provide to shop around where you are for the best deal

A RAM upgrade is a must as well else things will still be slow.

[Enrique]

I have already tried this program, but it is wrong, because it recommends sata ssd, but as already said what I have is nvme

[phillpower2]

That is very odd;

Download then run Speccy ( free ) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware.

To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

[Enrique]

I write the relevant details here

Summary

Operating System
Windows 11 Home Single Language 64-bit

CPU
Intel Core i5 1235U:
35 °C
Alder Lake 10nm Technology

RAM
8,00GB Single-Channel DDR4 @ 1330MHz (19-19-19-43)

Motherboard
HP 89E8 (U3E1):
41 °C

Graphics
HP ALL-in-One (1920x1080@60Hz)

Intel UHD Graphics (HP)

Storage
238GB NVMe KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA (Unknown (SSD))

Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected

Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

https://speccy.piriform.com/results/...4.pngOperating System

Windows 11 Home Single Language 64-bit

Computer type: Virtual

Installation Date: 5/12/2024 14:38:07
Windows Security Center

Intel Core i5 1235U
Cores:
10
Threads:
12
Name:
Intel Core i5 1235U
Code Name:
Alder Lake
Package:
Socket 1744 FCBGA
Technology:
10nm
Specification:
12th Gen Intel Core i5-1235U
Family:
6
Extended Family:
6
Model:
A
Extended Model:
9A
Stepping:
4
Revision:
R0
Instructions:
MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, Intel 64, NX, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3
Virtualization:
Not supported
Hyperthreading:
Not supported
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Average Temperature:
35 °C
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size:
2 x 48 KBytes
L1 Instructions Cache Size:
2 x 32 KBytes
L2 Unified Cache Size:
2 x 1280 KBytes
L3 Unified Cache Size:
12288 KBytes

Cores

Core 0
Core Speed:
3990.2 MHz
Multiplier:
x 40.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
40 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 0, 1

Core 1
Core Speed:
897.8 MHz
Multiplier:
x 9.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
32 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 8, 9

Core 2
Core Speed:
1097.3 MHz
Multiplier:
x 11.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
31 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 16

Core 3
Core Speed:
1296.8 MHz
Multiplier:
x 13.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
30 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 18

Core 4
Core Speed:
3192.2 MHz
Multiplier:
x 32.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
37 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 20

Core 5
Core Speed:
3192.2 MHz
Multiplier:
x 32.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
37 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 22

Core 6
Core Speed:
1097.3 MHz
Multiplier:
x 11.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
34 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 24

Core 7
Core Speed:
1596.1 MHz
Multiplier:
x 16.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
34 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 26

Core 8
Core Speed:
1596.1 MHz
Multiplier:
x 16.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
36 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 28

Core 9
Core Speed:
1097.3 MHz
Multiplier:
x 11.0
Bus Speed:
99.8 MHz
Temperature:
34 °C
Threads:
APIC ID: 30

https://speccy.piriform.com/results/img/255.pngRAM

Memory slots
Total memory slots:
2
Used memory slots:
1
Free memory slots:
1

Memory
Type:
DDR4
Size:
8192 MBytes
Channels #:
Single
DRAM Frequency:
1330.1 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL):
19 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):
19 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP):
19 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS):
43 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC):
62 clocks
Command Rate (CR):
2T

Physical Memory
Memory Usage:
85 %
Total Physical:
7.69 GB
Available Physical:
1.09 GB
Total Virtual:
9.57 GB
Available Virtual:
2.12 GB

SPD
Number Of SPD Modules:
1
Slot #1
Type:
DDR4
Size:
8192 MBytes
Manufacturer:
SK Hynix
Max Bandwidth:
DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
Part Number:
HMA81GS6DJR8N-XN
Serial Number:
5517BFBB
Week/year:
09 / 22
Timing table

JEDEC #1
Frequency:
733.3 MHz
CAS# Latency:
10,0
RAS# To CAS#:
11
RAS# Precharge:
11
tRAS:
24
tRC:
34
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #2
Frequency:
800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency:
11,0
RAS# To CAS#:
11
RAS# Precharge:
11
tRAS:
26
tRC:
37
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #3
Frequency:
866.7 MHz
CAS# Latency:
12,0
RAS# To CAS#:
12
RAS# Precharge:
12
tRAS:
28
tRC:
40
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #4
Frequency:
933.3 MHz
CAS# Latency:
13,0
RAS# To CAS#:
13
RAS# Precharge:
13
tRAS:
30
tRC:
43
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #5
Frequency:
1033.3 MHz
CAS# Latency:
14,0
RAS# To CAS#:
15
RAS# Precharge:
15
tRAS:
34
tRC:
48
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #6
Frequency:
1100.0 MHz
CAS# Latency:
15,0
RAS# To CAS#:
16
RAS# Precharge:
16
tRAS:
36
tRC:
51
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #7
Frequency:
1166.7 MHz
CAS# Latency:
16,0
RAS# To CAS#:
17
RAS# Precharge:
17
tRAS:
38
tRC:
54
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #8
Frequency:
1233.3 MHz
CAS# Latency:
17,0
RAS# To CAS#:
17
RAS# Precharge:
17
tRAS:
40
tRC:
57
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #9
Frequency:
1300.0 MHz
CAS# Latency:
18,0
RAS# To CAS#:
18
RAS# Precharge:
18
tRAS:
42
tRC:
60
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #10
Frequency:
1366.7 MHz
CAS# Latency:
19,0
RAS# To CAS#:
19
RAS# Precharge:
19
tRAS:
44
tRC:
63
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #11
Frequency:
1466.7 MHz
CAS# Latency:
20,0
RAS# To CAS#:
21
RAS# Precharge:
21
tRAS:
47
tRC:
68
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #12
Frequency:
1533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency:
21,0
RAS# To CAS#:
22
RAS# Precharge:
22
tRAS:
50
tRC:
71
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #13
Frequency:
1600.0 MHz
CAS# Latency:
22,0
RAS# To CAS#:
22
RAS# Precharge:
22
tRAS:
52
tRC:
74
Voltage:
1,200 V

JEDEC #14
Frequency:
1600.0 MHz
CAS# Latency:
24,0
RAS# To CAS#:
22
RAS# Precharge:
22
tRAS:
52
tRC:
74
Voltage:
1,200 V

https://speccy.piriform.com/results/img/253.pngMotherboard

Manufacturer:
HP
Model:
89E8 (U3E1)
Version:
0100
Chipset Vendor:
Intel
Chipset Model:
Alder Lake
Chipset Revision:
04
Southbridge Vendor:
Intel
Southbridge Model:
Alder Lake PCH
Southbridge Revision:
01
System Temperature:
41 °C
BIOS
Brand:
AMI
Version:
F.36
Date:
25/9/2024

PCI Data

Slot PCI-E
Slot Type:
PCI-E
Slot Usage:
In Use
Data lanes:
x16
Slot Designation:
J6B2
Characteristics:
3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number:
0

https://speccy.piriform.com/results/img/251.pngGraphics

Monitor
Name:
HP ALL-in-One on Intel UHD Graphics
Current Resolution:
1920x1080 pixels
Work Resolution:
1920x1032 pixels
State:
Enabled, Primary
Monitor Width:
1920
Monitor Height:
1080
Monitor BPP:
32 bits per pixel
Monitor Frequency:
60 Hz
Device:
\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0

Intel UHD Graphics
Manufacturer:
Intel
Model:
UHD Graphics
Device ID:
8086-4628
Revision:
D
Subvendor:
HP (103C)
Current Performance Level:
Level 0
Current GPU Clock:
600 MHz
Voltage:
0.285 V
Driver version:
31.0.101.5590
Count of performance levels : 1

Level 1 - “Perf Level 0”
GPU Clock:
600 MHz

https://speccy.piriform.com/results/img/252.pngStorage

Hard drives

NVMe KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA (SSD)
Interface:
Unknown
Capacity:
238 GB
Real size:
256 060 514 304 bytes
RAID Type:
None
S.M.A.R.T
S.M.A.R.T not supported

Partition 0
Partition ID:
Disk #0, Partition #0
File System:
FAT32
Volume Serial Number:
E6439E3A
Size:
256 MB
Used Space:
84 MB (33%)
Free Space:
171 MB (67%)

Partition 1
Partition ID:
Disk #0, Partition #1
Disk Letter:
C:
File System:
NTFS
Volume Serial Number:
6030A7ED
Size:
237 GB
Used Space:
98 GB (41%)
Free Space:
139 GB (59%)

Partition 2
Partition ID:
Disk #0, Partition #2
File System:
NTFS
Volume Serial Number:
1C1C84E0
Size:
808 MB
Used Space:
697 MB (86%)
Free Space:
111 MB (14%)

https://speccy.piriform.com/results/img/248.pngOptical Drives
No optical disk drives detected

[phillpower2]

90 Compatible Products

[Enrique]

ok thanks for the answer, I see that you have selected M.2 PCIe 3.0, but are you sure that my motherboard is not compatible with M.2 PCIe 4.0?

[phillpower2]

We will always only ever advise on what we know is 100% compatible and likewise we will never recommend something that we do not know for sure is 100% compatible, you will be advised the exact same on any other forum that you have post including the one at BC where you have been advised on the difficulties of the computer being an all in one.

The difference between the two at X4 will be negligible, unlike your RAM which at the moment is slow as molasses at 1333MHz.

[xrobwx71]

I see that you have selected M.2 PCIe 3.0, but are you sure that my motherboard is not compatible with M.2 PCIe 4.0

I second what @phillpower2 stated and add: The chipset on your mobo Intel H470 is only PCIe 3.0
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...fications.html

[phillpower2]

Being that the OP revisited the forum but chose not to reply this thread will be marked and closed.