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  • Uksb1
    PCHF Member
    • Aug 2024
    • 8

    #1

    Power Button Extension Blunder

    Hi all.

    Looking for an understanding of just how big an issue I’ve caused myself.

    Fitted an additional power button extension with LED. It came with a keyboard type button that I cut off and replaced with a flush panel mount illuminated NO momentary button.

    The wiring diagram colours for the button matched the colours of the 4 wires in the extension cable, Power LED+, Power LED-, and the 2 wires in the Power SW connector.

    I used a splitter on the MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Power SW, so both the extension and original case buttons would function and powered the extension button LED only.

    What I missed however is that whilst the colours of the extension cable matched the wiring diagram for the replacement extension button the wires went to incorrect locations on the motherboard. I’ve no idea now of what has been connected to what, or where voltage has been sent to places it shouldn’t have been.

    I’ve removed all elements of the extension from the PC and reconnected the originals.

    The PC will not now power on.

    Thanks in advance to anyone with the knowledge to advise.
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8977

    #2
    Hello

    Have you tried the standard way to powerup the pc ?

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    • Uksb1
      PCHF Member
      • Aug 2024
      • 8

      #3
      Hiya.
      Yes, as above. All returned to standard. Original PC power button now doesn’t work.

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      • Bruce
        PCHF Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 10697

        #4
        Remove the power button from the front panel header pins and short out the two pins for PWR SW with anything metalic like a flat head screwdriver.
        If that doesn’t work, you have damaged the motherboard.

        Show us some pics of the work you did.

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        • Uksb1
          PCHF Member
          • Aug 2024
          • 8

          #5
          Originally posted by Bruce
          Remove the power button from the front panel header pins and short out the two pins for PWR SW with anything metalic like a flat head screwdriver.
          If that doesn’t work, you have damaged the motherboard.

          Show us some pics of the work you did.
          Cheers for that Bruce, it at least rules out a coincidental fault with the original power button. No start up when shorting the PWR SW pins.
          No pics worth taking, PWR SW splitter removed and LED+/- wires to original case power button reconnected.
          Any thoughts on damage to the motherboard, am I looking at a new one?

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 10697

            #6
            Before we assign the mobo to the rubbish pile, it would be worth one last stab.

            Remove all components from the case and reassemble, on a piece of cardboard, the motherboard, power supply, processor, one stick of memory, and the monitor straight into the mobo if your processor has inbuilt graphics.
            So, no boot drive, no DVD unit, no keyboard or mouse, no PCIe cards - at this stage we just want to see if the PC boots up and can get into BIOS.

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            • xrobwx71
              PCHF Administrator
              • Mar 2023
              • 1059

              #7
              If you decide to disassemble, take a close up pic of the motherboard and add to your next post please.

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              • Uksb1
                PCHF Member
                • Aug 2024
                • 8

                #8
                Thanks for the assistance Mods, appreciated.
                The PC is only a year old and purchased as a complete unit. It’s been unstable and pretty much unusable for most of that time.
                13th/14th gen Intel issue. 3rd AIO, 2nd CPU and still crashes.
                I need to ensure I’m not invalidating the warranty as I’m currently using the warranty more than the PC.
                The test process described is beyond what I’m comfortable attempting, I’ll drop the supplier a mail and see what’s what.

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                • Bruce
                  PCHF Member
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 10697

                  #9
                  You probably have already voided the warranty with the work you did - not that they need know that! (y)
                  Are you still just in warranty, or just out? (assuming it was a 12month period)

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                  • Uksb1
                    PCHF Member
                    • Aug 2024
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Oh dear, that’s concerning, I’m 1 year into a 3 (possibly 5, can’t remember without checking) RTB warranty.

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                    • Bruce
                      PCHF Member
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 10697

                      #11
                      So I’m thinking the rig now has an extra hole on the case for that power button you installed, and the wiring for the PWR SW cabling has be ‘played with’ when you split in your extra switch?

                      Check your warranty, but if they see the level of user work, I reckon they aren’t going to want to touch it.

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                      • PeterOz
                        PCHF Technical Response Team
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 4181

                        #12
                        Reset CMOS Page 45 https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu...MAHAWKWIFI.pdf
                        If no good remove on board battery. No power cord in.
                        Press on switch a couple of times to drain all power.
                        test

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                        • Uksb1
                          PCHF Member
                          • Aug 2024
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Thanks Bruce.
                          No additional hole, or any modifications.
                          Correct regarding the PWR SW, LED+, LED-, all disconnected and now reconnected.
                          I’ll see what I can find out regarding the warranty.

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                          • Uksb1
                            PCHF Member
                            • Aug 2024
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PeterOz
                            Reset CMOS Page 45 https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu...MAHAWKWIFI.pdf
                            If no good remove on board battery. No power cord in.
                            Press on switch a couple of times to drain all power.
                            test
                            Cheers for that Peter. I’m going to try to get a better understanding of where I’m at regarding warranty for the remainder of the guarantee period and decide how to progress then.
                            I don’t currently want to dig the hole I’ve made for myself any deeper.

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                            • Bruce
                              PCHF Member
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 10697

                              #15
                              @Uksb1 - where we at?

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