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  • Clarkender
    PCHF Member
    • Apr 2024
    • 17

    #16
    [ATTACH type=“full”]13662[/ATTACH]
    should i remove all?

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    • Clarkender
      PCHF Member
      • Apr 2024
      • 17

      #17
      Originally posted by Bruce
      From Speccy;
      [ul]
      [li]E:\ has a few SMART errors, disconnect the drive and see if anything changes[/li][li]C:\ is down to 21GB of free space, clean that up to improve Windows operations[/li][li]There are two newer BIOS updates since your current one of R02-B0[/li][/ul]
      In case memory is to blame, remove both sticks, wipe their contact pins, their motherboard slots, and their circuitry boards with a soft bristled brush. Just put one stick back in and test. If no issues, remove and try the other. If issues, try the other mobo slots.

      From MTB;
      [ul]
      [li]remove the ACER bloatware programs[/li][/ul]
      To confirm, with the GPU removed and running on one screen, the PC works fine?
      If so, can you get your hands on another graphics card for testing purposes?
      i cannot enter uefi firmware to flash bios. when pressing f12 to enter boot menu, only windows boot manager pops up. but once i press it, it just boots into windows like normally. ive researched several forums but nothing helps. i cant remove the cmos battery, nor want to, as it can cause further issues if not done by a professional with necessary tools.

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      • Bruce
        PCHF Moderator
        • Oct 2017
        • 10702

        #18
        Inside your case, on the motherboard, is the CMOS battery that supplies power to BIOS when the PC is off.
        If it has the standard CR2032 type button cell battery, there is no special tool required, it simply flicks out by using anything like a small flat head screwdriver, nail file, tweezers, etc.

        You can still try the other suggestions, disconnect E:\ drive, cleanup C:\ drive with either CCleaner (free version) or Glary Disk Cleaner.
        Originally posted by Clarkender
        i even removed it whilst the pc is running
        NEVER EVER do this!!!
        Power is running through the circuitry and when you yank out components you have no way of controlling how the power is drained, or even if you cause a short as you lift the GPU out of it’s slot at an angle. This goes with anything connected to the motherboard - turn off first, unplug from wall, press power button to discharge the capacitors, then work on the PC.

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        • Clarkender
          PCHF Member
          • Apr 2024
          • 17

          #19
          Originally posted by Bruce
          Inside your case, on the motherboard, is the CMOS battery that supplies power to BIOS when the PC is off.
          If it has the standard CR2032 type button cell battery, there is no special tool required, it simply flicks out by using anything like a small flat head screwdriver, nail file, tweezers, etc.

          You can still try the other suggestions, disconnect E:\ drive, cleanup C:\ drive with either CCleaner (free version) or Glary Disk Cleaner.

          NEVER EVER do this!!!
          Power is running through the circuitry and when you yank out components you have no way of controlling how the power is drained, or even if you cause a short as you lift the GPU out of it’s slot at an angle. This goes with anything connected to the motherboard - turn off first, unplug from wall, press power button to discharge the capacitors, then work on the PC.
          got it.
          i cannot remove the cmos battery. its stuck underneath some plastic on its sides.

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Moderator
            • Oct 2017
            • 10702

            #20
            Does it look lie this

            [ATTACH type=“full”]13665[/ATTACH]

            If so, it just flicks out by putting one of those sharp pointy objects I mentioned under the left side of that picture, underneath the battery.

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            • Bruce
              PCHF Moderator
              • Oct 2017
              • 10702

              #21
              or push that metal latch that you see on the right side.

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Moderator
                • Oct 2017
                • 10702

                #22
                [ATTACH type=“full”]13666[/ATTACH]

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                • Clarkender
                  PCHF Member
                  • Apr 2024
                  • 17

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bruce
                  Does it look lie this

                  [ATTACH type=“full” alt=“1714805321326.jpeg”]13665[/ATTACH]

                  If so, it just flicks out by putting one of those sharp pointy objects I mentioned under the left side of that picture, underneath the battery.
                  it looks like this. cus of the bottom plastic bit, its really difficult to just pop out

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                  • Clarkender
                    PCHF Member
                    • Apr 2024
                    • 17

                    #24
                    i managed to remove it

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                    • Bruce
                      PCHF Moderator
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 10702

                      #25
                      At the top of that picture, those two black plastics lugs with the gap in between, that is where I would be inserting something small and flick that battery out with.

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                      • Bruce
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 10702

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Clarkender
                        i managed to remove it
                        OK, cool.
                        So why are you removing the battery for.

                        And it looks like you could really do with a can of compressed air or an air compressor (if Dad has one) and blow out the dust build up.
                        If you are going to blow out dust, there are things to consider first, so let us know, don’t go charging in and making things worse like I fear you could have already done by ripping out the GPU mid-use.

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                        • Clarkender
                          PCHF Member
                          • Apr 2024
                          • 17

                          #27
                          to
                          Originally posted by Bruce
                          OK, cool.
                          So why are you removing the battery for.

                          And it looks like you could really do with a can of compressed air or an air compressor (if Dad has one) and blow out the dust build up.
                          If you are going to blow out dust, there are things to consider first, so let us know, don’t go charging in and making things worse like I fear you could have already done by ripping out the GPU mid-use.
                          to reset bios.
                          listen, ive done screwed myself.
                          i broke a bit of the top plastic so i couldnt put the battery back in without it flinging out, so i removed the little metal thing sitting on the back thinking itd help me sit the battery in, but since theres no plastic in the top to hold it down, my pc will not power whatsover

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                          • Clarkender
                            PCHF Member
                            • Apr 2024
                            • 17

                            #28
                            thanks for all your help up until now.
                            it wasnt like i had any other ways to fix my situation

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                            • Clarkender
                              PCHF Member
                              • Apr 2024
                              • 17

                              #29
                              nevermind maybe im not fully screwed over.
                              i just need something to hold the battery down

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                              • Bruce
                                PCHF Moderator
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 10702

                                #30
                                A big part of doing things yourself is knowing when you are out of your depth and need to get help.
                                We have all been there, starting at knowing nothing and learning as we go.

                                You seem to be charging blindly ahead - like ripping out the GPU mid-use, and now the CMOS battery.
                                I thought you had the PC running fine, when the GPU was removed. This would indicate the GPU is your issue, or at least the first thing to replace.
                                Try getting your hands on another one if you can, like a friend, family, spare, or neighbour’s PC.

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