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  • mitatom4e
    PCHF Member
    • Mar 2024
    • 11

    #1

    Slow boot

    Hello everyone,
    so I just built my new pc and enabled XMP profile, it takes more than a minute for it to post. When I disabled XMP it was probably 5-6 seconds faster. While the PC is booting there’s a yellow light on my motherboard for the vram. It doesn’t blink or anything, just a solid light. The light turns off and the pc boots after a minute or something. I contacted MSI and they said to do a CMOS reset. I did it but still nothing changed.

    Specs:
    Mobo: MSI B650 Gaming plus wifi
    CPU: Ryzen 5 7600x
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x16 6000 mhz ddr5 cl30
    PSU: Corsair rm750e
  • Bruce
    PCHF Moderator
    • Oct 2017
    • 10702

    #2
    Let’s get your complete PC specs.
    Get Speccy; Speccy - Download Builds
    In Speccy, click File > Publish Snapshot (hit Yes if prompted to proceed with publish) > Copy to Clipboard > Close.
    Now you can paste that link into your next post.

    Is Speccy safe?

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    • mitatom4e
      PCHF Member
      • Mar 2024
      • 11

      #3

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15209

        #4
        Will explain the below and then look at your Speccy report to see if anything else is amiss;
        Originally posted by mitatom4e
        CPU: Ryzen 5 7600x
        RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x16 [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]6000 mhz ddr5 cl30
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        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]
        The RAM is not appropriate for your CPU, AMD state here up to 5200MHz/MT/s and if you have EXPO/XMP enabled the RAM will get auto OCd past what the CPU can handle and the PC will become unstable.

        Modern RAM has two speeds, SPD (serial presence detect) and XMP or similar such as EXPO, SPD is what the BIOS detects on boot which for DDR4 for example is most often 2133MHz and XMP which when enabled will set the RAM to run at the maximum speed that it is capable of.

        Something to keep in mind for the future, a CPU must be compatible with a MB whereas the RAM has to be compatible with both the CPU and the MB, this because a MB can be compatible with faster CPUs than the one in your list of parts and MB manufacturers often state RAM speeds that far exceed that which any compatible CPU can handle, this is misleading at the least or dishonest at worst.

        [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]Edit to add: Can see a couple of things in Speccy but have a question;
        Operating System
        Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
        Computer type: Virtual
        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Installation Date: 5/7/2022 8:21:47 AM

        Any idea as to why the first update shown to have been installed does not correspond with when Windows was first installed.
        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]3/26/2024 2024-02 Update for Windows 11 Version 23H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5036212)
        Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. For a complete
        listing of the issues that are included in this update, see the
        associated Microsoft Knowledge Base article for more information.
        After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
        Not Installed

        This in itself is an issue which I will explain later.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/color]

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        • mitatom4e
          PCHF Member
          • Mar 2024
          • 11

          #5
          So do I have to set my RAM speed manually or change my RAM sticks? Also I have no idea as to why the first update date doesn’t correspond with the date that windows was first installed.

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15209

            #6
            Two things that I would suggest as a starting point;

            Restore the MBs default factory settings in the BIOS, they are sometimes listed as one of the following " factory defaults" “most stable” or on newer boards “optimized” please note that if you have both the “most stable” and the “optimized” options in the BIOS you should choose the most stable" option as in this instance the “optimized” settings are a form of overclocking that can cause instability.

            Save the new settings, exit the BIOS, restart the computer the do the below;

            Check and if need be install the latest W11 chipset drivers from here

            Check and if need be install the latest W11 AMD video drivers from here

            Restart the computer, test by using the computer as you normally would, post back with an update when ready, no rush here as after ten hrs online Im calling it a day now,

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            • mitatom4e
              PCHF Member
              • Mar 2024
              • 11

              #7
              Okay, I did that. Everything is running fine and all of my drivers are installed. Am I obligated to install the AMD video drivers as well? I mean I have a graphics card and the drivers are up to date.
              Also my RAM is running at 4800 Mhz right now. What do I do about that?

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15209

                #8
                Your choice on the AMD video drivers, if your Nvidea GPU is happy then so should we be.

                Suggest leaving everything as is for a day or so and if all stays good post back and we will address your RAM.

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                • mitatom4e
                  PCHF Member
                  • Mar 2024
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Everything seems to be running fine. I don’t see any performance issues.

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15209

                    #10
                    Problem solved then.

                    Couple of questions for you;

                    Any remaining problems with yellow lights on the MB.

                    Is the RAM here the same type and spec that you have.

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                    • mitatom4e
                      PCHF Member
                      • Mar 2024
                      • 11

                      #11
                      When I turn on the PC the red and yellow lights turn on for about 8-9 seconds and when I restart it only the yellow light turns on for like 4-5 seconds.
                      Yes, that’s my RAM but its the RGB version.

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15209

                        #12
                        8-9 seconds seems to be a long time but the lights being on and then going off is normal.

                        If you are comfortable manually setting the RAM speed and voltage you should initially try 5000MT/s and 1.35V and if all good then try 5200MT/s and 1.35V, if you have problems with either speed try increasing the voltage to the maximum which is 1.40V, [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]do not exceed this.[/COLOR]

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                        • mitatom4e
                          PCHF Member
                          • Mar 2024
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Okay. I’ll try that and report back.

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15209

                            #14
                            You revisited the forum but left no feedback, how did it go.

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                            • phillpower2
                              PCHF Administrator
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 15209

                              #15
                              Being that the OP again revisited the forum but chose not to reply this thread will be marked and closed.

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