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  • nipp
    PCHF Member
    • Oct 2022
    • 10

    #1

    Streaming and bad bandwidth

    Hello!! So recently i tried to check how my PC can tolerate a live stream on twitch. Note that i dont have a GPU but integrated graphics. I thought that i will have fps drops but the video was okay. The problem was that i had bad bandwidth from obs and streamlabs (in my screen the game doesn’t lag at all, only on the stream some times). I have 100mbps fiber and the upload speed is 8-10 mbps. If i set my bitrate on obs/streamlabs more than 2000 the stream lags a lot. Do you think that this problem has to do with the cpu as i put lot of “pressure” on it or the internet which is pretty weird to me as people with the same upload and download speed can stream normally?

    I’m planning to buy a GPU, i don’t wanna stream right now as i’m aware of the poor video quality but i wanted to know if this stuttering is because of the non existent GPU as this can be solved. If is the internet it means i cannot stream because i just upgrated my line

    Streamlabs settings: I’m streaming at 720p, encoder software(x264), encoder present superfast, fps 60 (tried on games: Valorant, Genshin Impact ???)
    System resources from task manager while streaming: GPU is on 100%, CPU 38%-45% and memory 54%.

    CPU: ryzen 5 5600G, RAM: Corsair 16GB 3200Mhz, SSD: Samsung 970 evo plus 1T
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8982

    #2
    Hello

    Check this out .. Twitch Help Portal .

    Also it depends on how many people are on twitch at that time.

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    • nipp
      PCHF Member
      • Oct 2022
      • 10

      #3
      Originally posted by veeg
      Hello

      Check this out .. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/gui...US#:~:text=How your device is connected to this network can introduce,limited control over these factors.

      Also it depends on how many people are on twitch at that time.
      i changed the settings to the recommended of twitch but its the same, very bad bandwidth. At this point i just wanna know if having a GPU may help but it sounds weird to me as bandwidth clearly has to do with the internet connection but it’s also weird to me as they say 10mbps upload speed is good for streaming and i have exactly that…

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      • veeg
        PCHF Director
        • Jul 2016
        • 8982

        #4
        No the Gpu should not have anything to do with your bandwidth.

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        • nipp
          PCHF Member
          • Oct 2022
          • 10

          #5
          Originally posted by veeg
          No the Gpu should not have anything to do with your bandwidth.
          i did a little test with a friend we are on the same country. This guy had 50mbps DLS internet (so obviously lower upload speed than mine) and could stream with 3500 mbps, his bandwidth on twitch was pretty okay and it was so weird to us that I with fiber and 10mbps upload have 1500mbps-2000mbps bandwidth on twitch

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          • Malnutrition
            PCHF Moderator
            • Jul 2016
            • 7045

            #6
            Can I see a minitoolbox log please.

            Please download MiniToolBox and save it to your desktop.

            Run the program by right clicking on it and selecting Run as administrator.
            When the program opens select the following boxes:

            Flush DNS
            Report IE Proxy Settings
            Reset IE Proxy Settings
            Report FF Proxy Settings
            Reset FF Proxy Settings
            List content of Hosts
            List IP Configuration
            List Winsock Entries
            List last 10 Event Viewer Errors
            List Installed Programs
            List Devices (Only Problems)
            List Users, Partitions and Memory size

            Please post the log in your next reply

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            • nipp
              PCHF Member
              • Oct 2022
              • 10

              #7
              Originally posted by Malnutrition
              Can I see a minitoolbox log please.

              Please download MiniToolBox and save it to your desktop.

              Run the program by right clicking on it and selecting Run as administrator.
              When the program opens select the following boxes:

              Flush DNS
              Report IE Proxy Settings
              Reset IE Proxy Settings
              Report FF Proxy Settings
              Reset FF Proxy Settings
              List content of Hosts
              List IP Configuration
              List Winsock Entries
              List last 10 Event Viewer Errors
              List Installed Programs
              List Devices (Only Problems)
              List Users, Partitions and Memory size

              Please post the log in your next reply
              I’m sorry but what is the exact purpose of this?

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              • Rustys
                PCHF Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 7862

                #8
                Will show us what is going on with the system that can possibly causing the issues that you are stating.

                As you will start to see that there is a lot more to streaming than on thinks there is.
                Originally posted by nipp
                I’m planning to buy a GPU
                You said that you were going to get a GPU which one and what is the make and model of the current PSU and will it be capable of handling (powering) said GPU?



                When you made the attempt to stream were you?
                using a camera
                playing music in the background
                cross streaming
                wired or wireless
                What was running in the background
                Microphone and headset
                Originally posted by nipp
                i did a little test with a friend we are on the same country.
                You ae comparing apples to oranges.

                Where the specs exactly same as your system?
                Setup and configured the same as yours?
                Were they wired or wireless?

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                • nipp
                  PCHF Member
                  • Oct 2022
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rustys
                  Will show us what is going on with the system that can possibly causing the issues that you are stating.

                  As you will start to see that there is a lot more to streaming than on thinks there is.

                  You said that you were going to get a GPU which one and what is the make and model of the current PSU and will it be capable of handling (powering) said GPU?



                  When you made the attempt to stream were you?
                  using a camera
                  playing music in the background
                  cross streaming
                  wired or wireless
                  What was running in the background
                  Microphone and headset

                  You ae comparing apples to oranges.

                  Where the specs exactly same as your system?
                  Setup and configured the same as yours?
                  Were they wired or wireless?
                  My PSU is Be quiet system power 9 600W and i’m between Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 Gaming OC (rev. 2.0) and Sapphire Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 Pulse but i wanna do further research on that when i’m on budget.

                  I used neither camera on my stream nor music. My connection is wired, nothing else was running on the background except the game and obs. I am using headset with mic on it, also no cross streaming

                  The friend i said has the same CPU and PSU as me, the differences are the motherboard, RAM, the graphics card (which is the first one i said i think of buying), has less SSD space than me and wired connection.

                  I also did a twitch bandwidth test that is below that tests the bandwidth on servers. Note that the ones i have 4000-4800 and one on 6570 after some time are dropping like the other servers arround 2000

                  [MEDIA=imgur]EkC3xLc[/MEDIA]

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                  • Malnutrition
                    PCHF Moderator
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7045

                    #10
                    The minitoolbox log could help me help you.

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                    • nipp
                      PCHF Member
                      • Oct 2022
                      • 10

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Malnutrition
                      The minitoolbox log could help me help you.
                      you are not answering my question

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                      • nipp
                        PCHF Member
                        • Oct 2022
                        • 10

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Malnutrition
                        The minitoolbox log could help me help you.
                        I’m looking for answers of people that are really willing to help me. Can you explain me how is that going to help you exactly?

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                        • Malnutrition
                          PCHF Moderator
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7045

                          #13
                          Gives me your up configuration, could tell me if there are dns time outs, and also list the event log errors which could tell a lot, also installed programs that could possibly be an issue when they run along side certain other programs, when you ask for help on a forum there is no other way for people to help because they are not sitting in front of the machine in question. This gives us a little insight so that we can help you.

                          If you do not want to post the log, that’s fine I can not offer any assistance if not. And then again if the log is posted there may not be any issue that is identified in them…

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                          • nipp
                            PCHF Member
                            • Oct 2022
                            • 10

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Malnutrition
                            Gives me your up configuration, could tell me if there are dns time outs, and also list the event log errors which could tell a lot, also installed programs that could possibly be an issue when they run along side certain other programs, when you ask for help on a forum there is no other way for people to help because they are not sitting in front of the machine in question. This gives us a little insight so that we can help you.

                            If you do not want to post the log, that’s fine I can not offer any assistance if not. And then again if the log is posted there may not be any issue that is identified in them…
                            thank you for the specification but i will pass on this one because of the very private info i see it contains.

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                            • Malnutrition
                              PCHF Moderator
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7045

                              #15
                              ok.

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