3 dead Kingston NVMes in 1 year...why?

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  • ThePiePieper
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2023
    • 7

    #1

    3 dead Kingston NVMes in 1 year...why?

    I built a new AMD rig back at the end of 2022, all my specs and parts below. And since then, I’ve had my boot drive die 3 times. I have been using the Kingston KC3000 1GB as my boot drive and can’t find anything, anywhere as to why or how it would die 3 times. I’ve OCed the CPU through BIOs (3.5 min/4.5 max) and the GPU through Adrenalin. Anyone have any guess as to what would be killing drives in my M.2?

    Windows 10 Home 22H2
    Ryzen 5 5600
    T-Force Delta RAM 32 GB
    MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk MB
    XFX RX6900 XT GPU
    Corsair RM850x 80+ Gold PSU
    Toshiba P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM storage
    Corsair 4000D Airflow with 5 fans
    Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Air Cooler (installed after the first 2 drives died)
  • Bruce
    PCHF Moderator
    • Oct 2017
    • 10702

    #2
    lucky they have a 5yr warranty!

    which m.2 slot are you using?
    have all the dead drives been the same Kingston KC3000 models?
    have you checked the temps - are they getting cooked by the GPU?

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    • ThePiePieper
      PCHF Member
      • Jul 2023
      • 7

      #3
      Originally posted by Bruce
      lucky they have a 5yr warranty!

      which m.2 slot are you using?
      have all the dead drives been the same Kingston KC3000 models?
      have you checked the temps - are they getting cooked by the GPU?
      Yes, they have been easy to get RMAed. So, with that, they all have been the same model and size.
      Slot 1, and temps have seemed fine the few times i checked. I’ve chatted with others with the same MB, CPU and GPU and they reported that temps weren’t an issue for them either.

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      • xrobwx71
        PCHF Moderator
        • Mar 2023
        • 1067

        #4
        What happens when they “die”? Do they disappear, from everywhere? When you go to re-install Windows and you get to the partition part, is the drive gone or nonexistent?

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        • ThePiePieper
          PCHF Member
          • Jul 2023
          • 7

          #5
          Originally posted by xrobwx71
          What happens when they “die”? Do they disappear, from everywhere? When you go to re-install Windows and you get to the partition part, is the drive gone or nonexistent?
          One minute I’m on the web or watching Twitch, the next I can’t open any new programs. After restart it goes to windows repair screen. I’ve tried them in other slots and other PCs but i’m never able to boot from them or have the PC even recognize its attached.

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          • PeterOz
            PCHF Technical Response Team
            • Mar 2021
            • 4191

            #6
            when it fails do you check if it is in bios before doing anything else.

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            • ThePiePieper
              PCHF Member
              • Jul 2023
              • 7

              #7
              Originally posted by PeterOz
              when it fails do you check if it is in bios before doing anything else.
              Yes, nothing shown. When attached via the 2nd slot or with an adapter, it’s not recognized.

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              • Rustys
                PCHF Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 7862

                #8
                Might be something that the speccy report might show.

                [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Do not forget to post the make and model of the PSU if this is a desktop.

                Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

                To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

                In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

                In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

                Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.[/COLOR]

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                • ThePiePieper
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jul 2023
                  • 7

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rustys
                  Might be something that the speccy report might show.

                  [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Do not forget to post the make and model of the PSU if this is a desktop.

                  Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

                  To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

                  In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

                  In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

                  Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.
                  [/COLOR]
                  [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]


                  let me know if i have to post the list in a reply.[/color]

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                  • Rustys
                    PCHF Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7862

                    #10
                    They may have more to input as well.

                    When you get the replacement drive how are you putting the operating system onto the drive?
                    Originally posted by ThePiePieper
                    Toshiba P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM storage
                    Have you checked the drive for failures?
                    Is this attached if you are preforming a fresh install?
                    Originally posted by ThePiePieper
                    Anyone have any guess as to what would be killing drives in my M.2
                    One issue I see that the drive is getting full.

                    Partition 1
                    Partition ID: Disk #0, Partition #1
                    Disk Letter: C:
                    File System: NTFS
                    Volume Serial Number: 161379F4
                    Size: 222 GB
                    Used Space: 155 GB (69%)
                    [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Free Space: 67 GB (31%)

                    One issue could be because Windows requires on average 30% to 35% free space including 32 GB free space for updates, 7-10 GB reserved for future proofing on the C drive.

                    This is not including and limited to what the system uses for backups, swap page and hibernate files.

                    Power Profile
                    Active power scheme: Balanced
                    Hibernation: Enabled

                    If you do not use Hibernation, you can turn it off.[/COLOR]

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                    • xrobwx71
                      PCHF Moderator
                      • Mar 2023
                      • 1067

                      #11
                      Originally posted by xrobwx71
                      When you go to re-install Windows and you get to the partition part, is the drive gone or nonexistent?
                      Have you tried to re-install Windows on the SSD in question, via a bootable USB drive? If so, please answer the above question.

                      The reason I ask?

                      I had this happen on a system at work. One day, the drive was gone. Went into a Windows Repair boot loop. I tried to clean install via a bootable USB and it told me there was no drive to partition.
                      The solution was to include the NVMe driver on the bootable USB. (copied the driver to the root of the USB drive) and presto, the missing drive appeared. I was then able to clean install Windows, then restore from a backup image and all has been fine for over a year.

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                      • ThePiePieper
                        PCHF Member
                        • Jul 2023
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rustys
                        When you get the replacement drive how are you putting the operating system onto the drive?

                        Have you checked the drive for failures?
                        Is this attached if you are preforming a fresh install?
                        When i’ve reinstalled Windows, i usually unplug the other drives and use a USB to get the fresh install going. The current C: drive in that log is my backup that I imaged after the second failure. The second one I made sure to have under 80% usage and the last one never reached 50% as I only put the OS and minimal apps on it.
                        I haven’t looked at the Toshiba for failures since it’s never given me any issues.

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                        • ThePiePieper
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jul 2023
                          • 7

                          #13
                          Originally posted by xrobwx71
                          Have you tried to re-install Windows on the SSD in question, via a bootable USB drive? If so, please answer the above question.
                          I believe i tried with the second one, seeing if a fresh install would help but I don’t think I could ever get windows to find it. I’ll try that again with the 3rd since you said you had luck with one prior.

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                          • Rustys
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7862

                            #14
                            For your information

                            We can also check the drive integrity with CrystalDiskInfo.

                            [2025/07/21] CrystalMark Retro 2.0.6 - Manual / History Standard Edition Installer ZIP ZIP (9x) ZIP (NT) Source Code Store ($9.99) Shizuku Edition Installer ZIP ZIP (9x) ZIP (NT) Store ($9.99) Aoi Edition Installer ZIP ZIP (9x) ZIP (NT) Store ($9.99) [2025/08/31] CrystalDiskInfo 9.7.2 - Manual / History Standard Edition Installer ZIP Source Code Sound Pack


                            You can run a Check Disk on that drive using the following connand.

                            chkdsk d: /r

                            So you can review the results and post if needed.

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                            • Bruce
                              PCHF Moderator
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 10702

                              #15
                              @ThePiePieper - any update?

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