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  • Goats
    PCHF Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 14

    #16
    Originally posted by PeterOz
    Pcie cable?
    Excuse me, i’m not well versed in this.

    PCI cable?

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    • PeterOz
      PCHF Technical Response Team
      • Mar 2021
      • 4191

      #17
      Originally posted by Goats
      when i unplug the PCIE cable
      do you mean the pcie power cable?
      I know the GPU works on your friends computer. Do you have someone you can borrow a simple gpu card from.
      From the specs on the card and the mb they should work together.
      I still doubt if it is bios.
      You cannot check a gigabyte bios version until you get power and video.
      I am really stumped on this.
      I will try someone else. @phillpower2

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      • PeterOz
        PCHF Technical Response Team
        • Mar 2021
        • 4191

        #18
        you can always update the bios to the latest version as it has Qflash. However, I cannot see the bios stopping boot
        as bios should have nothing to do with power. It should still allow boot and no video.
        Card having power and stopping boot sounds like a short.
        Let’s see if any of the others I hit up have an answer.
        Make and model of ram.
        Also remove all ram.
        power to gpu
        will it power up?

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15209

          #19
          Originally posted by Goats
          Once again the PC will not boot when the GPU is connected to PSU, it boots without being connected and I get a
          message to connect the GPU to PSU.
          For clarity and to avoid any possible confusion, a computer has not booted until the user is in a fully working OS such as Windows.

          With the above in mind it is possible that the MB is failing the power on self test ( POST ).

          What is the exact model name or number of the 750W Corsair PSU and is it out of the box new.

          Do you have the keyboard connected to one of the black USB 2.0 ports.

          I concur with Peter regarding the replacement MB needing a BIOS update and likewise we need to know the RAM details.

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          • Goats
            PCHF Member
            • Apr 2023
            • 14

            #20
            Originally posted by PeterOz
            do you mean the pcie power cable?
            I know the GPU works on your friends computer. Do you have someone you can borrow a simple gpu card from.
            From the specs on the card and the mb they should work together.
            I still doubt if it is bios.
            You cannot check a gigabyte bios version until you get power and video.
            I am really stumped on this.
            I will try someone else. @phillpower2
            Yes, i mean pcie power cable that connects from psu to gpu.

            I can take my friends card, but on sunday earliest. Working saturdays…
            I’ll also take my gpu to him and test it again..

            Removed all RAM , result is the same.

            Kingston Fury Beast KF432C16BBK2

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            • Goats
              PCHF Member
              • Apr 2023
              • 14

              #21
              Originally posted by phillpower2
              For clarity and to avoid any possible confusion, a computer has not booted until the user is in a fully working OS such as Windows.

              With the above in mind it is possible that the MB is failing the power on self test ( POST ).

              What is the exact model name or number of the 750W Corsair PSU and is it out of the box new.

              Do you have the keyboard connected to one of the black USB 2.0 ports.

              I concur with Peter regarding the replacement MB needing a BIOS update and likewise we need to know the RAM details.
              Hello, Phil.

              You are right, I should have invested time in finding the right terminology and write more accurately.

              I guess, “Once again the PC will not power up when the GPU is connected to PSU” would fit better.

              The PSU is CORSAIR CX-M Series CX750M 80 PLUS BRONZE and is not out of the box new, but I can say
              I got it from a reliable source, since I know him personally. I’m pretty sure it’s a faultless device.

              I have no keyboard connected.

              About the Q-flash, I’ve never done it before, but it should be pretty straight forward process as i read.

              So, i download the latest bios for the board, format USB flash in FAT32, extract the bios onto the flash,
              strip everything out that i can from the board, power up the board, insert the flash with the latest bios
              in usb port next to the q-flash button, press it for a couple seconds and that should do it, right?

              I read something about renaming the BIOS file itself for GIGABYTE boards, is that necessary?

              Please correct me if any of the steps are wrong.

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Moderator
                • Oct 2017
                • 10702

                #22
                mobo manufactures release firmware updates to their BIOS code to support new GPU’s fairly regularly, so checking for a new BIOS update would be one place to start.

                another, and this is a loooong shot - instead of using a TV, can you use a normal monitor.
                yes, it’s a straw clutch, but I reckon we are up to that stage!

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15209

                  #23
                  Good choice of RAM to pair with the CPU.
                  Originally posted by Goats
                  CORSAIR CX-M Series CX750M 80 PLUS BRONZE
                  Corsair make decent PSUs but they must be used for their intended use and like all PSUs they are only reliable when covered by warranty, the PSU to which you refer is not only not out of the box new but also not covered by any warranty and not being used for the intended use, what Corsair recommend here that the PSU be used for;
                  CX Series Modular power supply units are an excellent choice for [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]basic system builds and desktop PC computer upgrades, offering high reliability, low noise, and the flexibility of modular cabling.

                  The PSU was rated as Tier C • Recommended for cheap mid/low-end systems here
                  Originally posted by Goats
                  I have no keyboard connected.
                  You 100% need a keyboard attached as described in my reply #19 or the power on self test will fail when the BIOS cannot detect a keyboard.
                  Originally posted by Goats
                  Please correct me if any of the steps are wrong.
                  If you flash the BIOS with no keyboard attached as was previously advised you very well may brick the MB.[/COLOR]

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                  • Goats
                    PCHF Member
                    • Apr 2023
                    • 14

                    #24
                    Originally posted by phillpower2
                    Good choice of RAM to pair with the CPU.

                    Corsair make decent PSUs but they must be used for their intended use and like all PSUs they are only reliable when covered by warranty, the PSU to which you refer is not only not out of the box new but also not covered by any warranty and not being used for the intended use, what Corsair recommend here that the PSU be used for;

                    The PSU was rated as Tier C • Recommended for cheap mid/low-end systems here

                    You 100% need a keyboard attached as described in my reply #19 or the power on self test will fail when the BIOS cannot detect a keyboard.

                    If you flash the BIOS with no keyboard attached as was previously advised you very well may brick the MB.
                    Hello, I’m embarrased but happy to inform you that I found the culprit.

                    It turns out, just like you said, phill, that PSU was not reliable. I should have known better.
                    Never skimp on the PSU, is the lesson I leared i guess.

                    It was originally bought for gigabyte ab-350 and R3 1500x and it worked well
                    for couple days. Didnt think it could go bad like that so sudden, since it’s a corsair..right.

                    Anyways, just ordered an RM850X, think this one should be a bit more reliable.

                    Do you guys think 4080 would fit well in this system, or should I get 3080TI?
                    I want to do some 4K gaming, but since my TV can only run 4k60hz, i’m wondering
                    if 4080 would be overkill. Would 3080TI struggle to produce 60 fps in this system?

                    I’m also aware it’s relative from game to game and the settings what FPS it will output.

                    And one last question, would I get any perfomance increase if I got the
                    G.SKILL TRIDENT Z NEO DDR4 3600, CL16, DIMM 288-PIN, over the current RAM?

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                    • Bruce
                      PCHF Moderator
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 10702

                      #25
                      in post #20 you mention Kingston Fury Beast KF432C16BBK2 but not how much of it you have?
                      from the number I can guess it is DDR4-3200 CL16 and probably a kit of 2.

                      so you are probably only changing the hertz from 3200 to 3600.
                      not a big jump.
                      yes - a benchmark test will show better numbers.
                      but if you would notice the improvement, I would say probably not.

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                      • Goats
                        PCHF Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 14

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bruce
                        in post #20 you mention Kingston Fury Beast KF432C16BBK2 but not how much of it you have?
                        from the number I can guess it is DDR4-3200 CL16 and probably a kit of 2.

                        so you are probably only changing the hertz from 3200 to 3600.
                        not a big jump.
                        yes - a benchmark test will show better numbers.
                        but if you would notice the improvement, I would say probably not.
                        Yup, you are correct. I would be changing only the Hz.

                        I will save some cash then.

                        Thanks for the reply.

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                        • Goats
                          PCHF Member
                          • Apr 2023
                          • 14

                          #27
                          Also, the brand new PSU just came in, the PC is now fully operational.

                          Sorry for the confusion, I should have been more thorough with investigation.

                          Thank you everyone for your time.

                          Best regards, have a nice day.

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                          • Bruce
                            PCHF Moderator
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 10702

                            #28
                            glad you got it all sorted.
                            thanks for letting us know and all the best going forward.

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                            • phillpower2
                              PCHF Administrator
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 15209

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Goats
                              And one last question, would I get any perfomance increase if I got the
                              G.SKILL TRIDENT Z NEO DDR4 3600, CL16, DIMM 288-PIN, over the current RAM?
                              Unless you plan to manually OC the CPU I strongly suggest that you stick with the present RAM as it allows you to simply enable XMP and let the BIOS OC the RAM to the sweet spot for the CPU, your Ryzen 5 5600X CPU cannot handle RAM any faster than 3200MHz meaning that you would not be able to enable XMP if you did purchase 3600MHz RAM, see CPU specs here

                              Glad to hear that the new PSU has resolved the issue and a very good choice with the RM spec (y)

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