Weird post-BSOD behavior -- OS or component problem?

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  • lyew
    PCHF Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 3

    #1

    Weird post-BSOD behavior -- OS or component problem?

    Folks,

    I’ve got a bizarre problem with my computer that I can’t explain. Recently, I’ve been noticing my PC increasingly BSODing. But in those instances, I’ve been able to simply reboot and get back up and running. But over the last week, something weird started happening. I notice that I can no longer reboot immediately after the blue screen. My computer just boots straight into my BIOS screen. When I go into the system overview, all components are listed. And no matter how many times I reboot immediately after the blue screening I just end up in BIOS. But when I wait for more 15 minutes, I have no problem. The computer boots up normally into my OS (Win 11) and I can go about my normal business until I blue screen again. Then the same issue of needing to wait before I can boot up normally again.

    Now if this were a case of a bad driver or malfunctioning software, I shouldn’t need to wait, and a reboot should normally do the trick. But if I have to wait, I wonder if that’s because of an overheated component that now needs to cool down before I can boot. But surely, if there is an overheated part, I wouldn’t even be able to power on at all. Going by this scenario, do you think this is the case? I’m wondering if in the midst of using an application, there is a sudden spike in resource usage, which then causes the component to heat up and then fail, causing the BSOD, and the subsequent difficulty in booting into the OS. If that’s the case, how do I figure what component it is? I know for sure that it can’t be something really fundamental like PSU, CPU, GPU or RAM. Because if those are the affected components, the machine shouldn’t be able to power on and go into BIOS at all.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    L
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8977

    #2
    Hello

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    • lyew
      PCHF Member
      • Mar 2023
      • 3

      #3
      Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, this time around my PC booted, but then blue screened just as I was logging in. So I wasn’t even able to install Speccy.

      On another note I think I’ve now managed to isolate the problem to either the motherboard or the NVME SSD. When the crash happened and I rebooted straight into BIOS, I noticed that my SSD was no longer listed in the system info page. When I had a look at a few other discussion forums, it seems that this problem is very common with overheating SSDs. When they overheat, a protective action is set in place. The SSD is immediately dismounted, which causes the blue screen. It remains dismounted for as long as the SSD internal circuitry deems the component to be in an overheated state, and then automatically remounts when it thinks it’s safe.

      Now, the question is why this is happening. I’m using a 2 TB Seagate Firecuda 530. So I can appreciate that as a Gen4 PCIE 4 drive, it probably heats up a lot quicker. But I’ve been using it for four months now without any problems. So I wonder if this is a sign of something that has failed within the SSD which protects it from overheating.

      Or could it be the motherboard? Something to do with a component that is interfacing with the SSD?

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      • veeg
        PCHF Director
        • Jul 2016
        • 8977

        #4
        Let’s get more help.

        @PeterOz

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        • PeterOz
          PCHF Technical Response Team
          • Mar 2021
          • 4181

          #5
          Originally posted by lyew
          When they overheat, a protective action is set in place
          Did this come with a heatsink and did you install the heatsink?
          FireCuda 530 with heatsink offers a minimalist design, anodized aluminium body, and finely textured micropore surface to improve heat transfer and lower SSD temps — making it super-efficient at maximum cooling to maintain peak performance for longer periods of time.

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          • lyew
            PCHF Member
            • Mar 2023
            • 3

            #6
            Yes, it’s the one with the heatsink.

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            • PeterOz
              PCHF Technical Response Team
              • Mar 2021
              • 4181

              #7
              Can you go here and download speed fan and install Click On Me .
              Run speed fan then click on the Exotics tab > show the magic. Post a screen capture. To do a screen capture in Windows 10 press the windows key and the print screen button together. It will put the image in Pictures>Screenshots.
              And speccy if you can

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 10697

                #8
                @lyew - any news?

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                • Bruce
                  PCHF Member
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 10697

                  #9
                  abandoned

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