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  • ttdelta2
    PCHF Member
    • Nov 2022
    • 7

    #1

    MSI Tomahawk not booting

    Hello everybody,

    I have a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II with AMD Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1650 Video. Yesterday I tried to start the system but no sound, no light no fans spinning. Checked PSU, 120V in ok, no 5V/12V out. Bought another PSU unit. Now I have lights and fans running but no display (HDMi input). Checked with different HDMi cable and monitor, same thing.
    Tried with a known working graphic card (same model, from a second PC), no change. Tried with new DRAMs, no change. Then I noticed the red-lit CPU LED on MB. That, according to MB manual, shows missing/faulty CPU. Removed CPU, RAM, reset CMOS (JBAT shorted) then downloaded and installed (from formatted FAT32 flash drive) the latest BIOS from MSI site. No change. Tried a previous version of BIOS, no change, CPU red light is still on and no image. Just to make sure, CPU pins were checked under magnifier, they are all straight, as expected, since it was installed when system died.
    Please help!
  • Rustys
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7862

    #2
    Originally posted by ttdelta2
    . Removed CPU
    Did you redo the thermal paste properly.

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    • ttdelta2
      PCHF Member
      • Nov 2022
      • 7

      #3
      Yes. Cleaned then a fresh layer of Corsair XTM50.

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      • Rustys
        PCHF Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 7862

        #4
        How much did you add.

        Assemble the system outside of the box on cardboard.
        Have you connected the BIOS speaker this may shed some light as to what is going on.
        What is the pattern?

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        • ttdelta2
          PCHF Member
          • Nov 2022
          • 7

          #5
          Not much; just to spread evenly without passing the edge of CPU. I don’t have a BIOS speaker.

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          • Rustys
            PCHF Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 7862

            #6
            What is the PSU make and model?

            Have you tried factory resetting the BIOS?

            Ever since they stopped adding the speaker to the motherboards makes it harder to diagnose (to save money).

            Reseat the RAM, GPU, DATA cables, Power cables, PSU to motherboard.

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            • ttdelta2
              PCHF Member
              • Nov 2022
              • 7

              #7
              PSU is EVGA 700GD 700W. I did reset CMOS (BIOS to factory). I tried another set of identical DRAMs and another Video card. Power cables were reinserted since I have replaced the first PSU that was dead.
              I did order another CPU. Waiting for it. The fact the “EZ Debug” light on the motherboard shows no-CPU made me think it is the culprit. I bit the bullet and ordered it.

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              • Rustys
                PCHF Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 7862

                #8
                What about the other stuff I suggested?

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                • ttdelta2
                  PCHF Member
                  • Nov 2022
                  • 7

                  #9
                  I did reseat RAM, GPU; I just did the data cable as wells; power cables from PSU, I did reseat twice.

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                  • Rustys
                    PCHF Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7862

                    #10
                    From what I can see all the basics have been covered correctly.

                    Let’s see if @PeterOz has any different ideas and or suggestions.

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                    • ttdelta2
                      PCHF Member
                      • Nov 2022
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Thank you!

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                      • Rustys
                        PCHF Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7862

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ttdelta2
                        I did order another CPU.
                        Any idea when this should arrive.

                        There are so many reasons that this could be happening and who knows replacing the CPU may even correct this.

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                        • ttdelta2
                          PCHF Member
                          • Nov 2022
                          • 7

                          #13
                          Don’t know. Ordered from BestBuy, hopefully they move fast.

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                          • Rustys
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7862

                            #14
                            Not a problem just wondering about a time frame if there was one.

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                            • PeterOz
                              PCHF Technical Response Team
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 4190

                              #15
                              Have you checked the voltage of the cmos battery
                              Odd I know but I have seen that before

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