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  • Bruce
    PCHF Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 10697

    #16
    that’s a good, if somewhat scary, find.
    wonder what else in the house may have be effected?

    but yeah, that’s one very good things UPS units do, forget the battery backup benefit, it’s the cleaning of the sine wave that really saves the day!

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    • YoderOne
      PCHF Member
      • Feb 2022
      • 33

      #17
      Originally posted by Bruce
      that’s a good, if somewhat scary, find.
      wonder what else in the house may have be effected?

      but yeah, that’s one very good things UPS units do, forget the battery backup benefit, it’s the cleaning of the sine wave that really saves the day!
      Unfortunately… I’m not done… Now I have an overheating problem with my processor, my cooler is the ****** one that comes with the 5600X… And right now is hot as hell where I live.

      Just om BIOS is on 46C… So I tried to play some Halo last night and the thing **** down itsefl, on desktop after that it was on 66C and going down, but then it went off again…

      My god. I’m tired of this

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      • Bruce
        PCHF Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 10697

        #18
        if the ambient temperature is ‘hot as hell’, all any fan will do will be just pushing that hot air over the heatsink.

        so while a better fan and heatsink may help, perhaps consider water cooling.
        but even then, how hot are we talking with the air temp?

        66C isn’t too bad, certainly not critical, I’d call it high in the average band.
        the shutdown may have been caused by the BIOS settings detecting the CPU hit a preset temp range.
        check the BIOS settings for what it has in the power profile for triggering events based on temps.

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        • YoderOne
          PCHF Member
          • Feb 2022
          • 33

          #19
          Originally posted by Bruce
          if the ambient temperature is ‘hot as hell’, all any fan will do will be just pushing that hot air over the heatsink.

          so while a better fan and heatsink may help, perhaps consider water cooling.
          but even then, how hot are we talking with the air temp?

          66C isn’t too bad, certainly not critical, I’d call it high in the average band.
          the shutdown may have been caused by the BIOS settings detecting the CPU hit a preset temp range.
          check the BIOS settings for what it has in the power profile for triggering events based on temps.
          Right now, we are on 30 to 33C, for me… That’s a Lot. Another thing I noticed with the CPU temp, while doing nothing it reached to 88C and stayed on 75 for a long time… I’m foing to check BIOS version just in case and I found an option Calle “CPU VRM over temperature protection” with the option to Set it from 95C and above, not surenif this is the right one.

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 10697

            #20
            for me low 30’s is a normal summer day, hell, even in spring and autumn here in tropical Queensland that temp is common!
            for example, last night the room temp was 27 and after the PC was on for a while, it reached 39 (southbridge).
            I have a wall mounted, wooden, open to the air, custom built rig I did a four years ago.
            I added two digital thermometers - one for the ambient temp and one on the SouthBridge as it’s not actively cooled by anything and gets rather hot.

            whatever cooling system you use, it should keep the processor within, say 20-30C of the ambient temp. any more than that and you are either over-working the system like playing games or you have an airflow problem.

            have you changed the thermal paste on the processor?
            try leaving the side cover off and blowing a fan into the chassis.
            doing nothing and hitting 88 is concerning - have you opened it up and checked the CPU fan is indeed working? (y)

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            • YoderOne
              PCHF Member
              • Feb 2022
              • 33

              #21
              Originally posted by Bruce
              for me low 30’s is a normal summer day, hell, even in spring and autumn here in tropical Queensland that temp is common!
              for example, last night the room temp was 27 and after the PC was on for a while, it reached 39 (southbridge).
              I have a wall mounted, wooden, open to the air, custom built rig I did a four years ago.
              I added two digital thermometers - one for the ambient temp and one on the SouthBridge as it’s not actively cooled by anything and gets rather hot.

              whatever cooling system you use, it should keep the processor within, say 20-30C of the ambient temp. any more than that and you are either over-working the system like playing games or you have an airflow problem.

              have you changed the thermal paste on the processor?
              try leaving the side cover off and blowing a fan into the chassis.
              doing nothing and hitting 88 is concerning - have you opened it up and checked the CPU fan is indeed working? (y)
              It is working well, but is too weak I’m afraid for the processor. I looked into the BIOS version, I had the 1.00 version from 2021 and I read the different versions for the BIOS updates… The most recent version from this year says “support for AMD Ryzen 5800X3D”… So, maybe that’s one problem. I’m updating right now.

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 10697

                #22
                keep us updated.

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                • YoderOne
                  PCHF Member
                  • Feb 2022
                  • 33

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bruce
                  keep us updated.
                  BIOS updates… And now the problem is worse, it’s rebooting randomly even on BIOS screen. Holy ****, really, this is driving me mad. Maybe I should buy everything new and be don with this…

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                  • Bruce
                    PCHF Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 10697

                    #24
                    you are confident you got the correct BIOS version for your make/model/version of motherboard?

                    and to make sure I’m up to date - the processor is new, and the power supply, but you are still waiting on the new motherboard?

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                    • YoderOne
                      PCHF Member
                      • Feb 2022
                      • 33

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bruce
                      you are confident you got the correct BIOS version for your make/model/version of motherboard?

                      and to make sure I’m up to date - the processor is new, and the power supply, but you are still waiting on the new motherboard?
                      Yes, I’m sure I use the right BIOS version. PSU is new, Ryzen 7 5800X is new, the MB I am currently working on is the Tomahawk 570S, also new… I’m waiting a warranty for the Aorus X570 Pro Wifi, in the mean time I’m really out of ideas… Maybe the RAM or my 6 years old video card, that’s the only component I can’t change easily.

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                      • Bruce
                        PCHF Member
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 10697

                        #26
                        where did the Tomahawk mobo come from, new or used?
                        try taking the BIOS back to the previous firmware version.
                        on the Tomahawk mobo, have you tried only using one stick of RAM, and only having the SSD with the OS on it connect?

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                        • YoderOne
                          PCHF Member
                          • Feb 2022
                          • 33

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bruce
                          where did the Tomahawk mobo come from, new or used?
                          try taking the BIOS back to the previous firmware version.
                          on the Tomahawk mobo, have you tried only using one stick of RAM, and only having the SSD with the OS on it connect?
                          The Tomahawk is new, from Amazon, easy refunds. I’ve already tried the RAM slot process, eveb withouth SSD. But I dont know, maybe I missed something, the only constant here is the graphics card, that’s my last move. Let me do the RAM thing en BIOS reset… But I dont know if I wan to have that Ryzen 7 on the stock BIOS version.

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                          • Bruce
                            PCHF Member
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 10697

                            #28
                            yeah, that’s a drawback to having a processor that doesn’t have onboard graphics, makes times like these difficult.

                            did you ever end up taking it all apart and reassembling on a piece of cardboard an on bench somewhere?

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                            • YoderOne
                              PCHF Member
                              • Feb 2022
                              • 33

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bruce
                              yeah, that’s a drawback to having a processor that doesn’t have onboard graphics, makes times like these difficult.

                              did you ever end up taking it all apart and reassembling on a piece of cardboard an on bench somewhere?
                              Yep. I did that multiple times with both mobos, Aorus and MSI. A lot of my testing was on top of the mobo boxes, most crtitical errors where on BIOS alone. Things got a lot better since I bought the PSU, but those damn reboots and shut downs are weird.

                              I’m working with one RAM stick and slowly reconnecting every HDD and SSD… Everything fine, for now.

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                              • Bruce
                                PCHF Member
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 10697

                                #30
                                so with the current configuration, one RAM, new PSU, Tomahawk mobo, etc, the system has not restarted itself?

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