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  • Alex15787
    PCHF Member
    • Apr 2021
    • 37

    #16
    Originally posted by Rustys
    No it will not the only thing that will correct it will be to get a bigger drive to install windows on.

    Plus a better PSU.

    @phillpower2
    I have a 2tb hdd, windows is just on that ssd on recomendation from my uncle

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    • Bruce
      PCHF Moderator
      • Oct 2017
      • 10702

      #17
      This may sound like a stupid question but what do you mean by circuitry do you mean the actual boards of them?

      Yes, remove those components and clean up their printed circuit boards, either wiping or with a brush.
      and their contact pins, and the slot they go into on the mobo.

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      • Alex15787
        PCHF Member
        • Apr 2021
        • 37

        #18
        Originally posted by Bruce
        Yes, remove those components and clean up their printed circuit boards, either wiping or with a brush.
        and their contact pins, and the slot they go into on the mobo.
        Is it definitely a hardware issue or could it potentially be a software issue, like I said to someone else my boot drive is constantly giving me low space warnings

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        • Bruce
          PCHF Moderator
          • Oct 2017
          • 10702

          #19
          definitely? no one can say, we are all shooting blind here with only the info provided.
          yes - low space could potentially cause issues but not with booting, it’ll just be super slow while Windows has to sort out caches, temp files, paging file, restore points and what ever as it starts.

          have you removed the graphics card and memory yet and cleaned them?
          it’s not uncommon for these parts to have their contacts oxidise and fail to achieve a clean connection with the motherboard and often a simple wipe is all that is needed.

          of course, it could be a faulty part as well.

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          • Alex15787
            PCHF Member
            • Apr 2021
            • 37

            #20
            Originally posted by Bruce
            definitely? no one can say, we are all shooting blind here with only the info provided.
            yes - low space could potentially cause issues but not with booting, it’ll just be super slow while Windows has to sort out caches, temp files, paging file, restore points and what ever as it starts.

            have you removed the graphics card and memory yet and cleaned them?
            it’s not uncommon for these parts to have their contacts oxidise and fail to achieve a clean connection with the motherboard and often a simple wipe is all that is needed.

            of course, it could be a faulty part as well.
            Yeah I wiped down all the contacts and cicuitry with cottin wool buds and cleaned their ports with swabs/q tips

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15209

              #21
              Originally posted by Alex15787
              I have windows on a 32gb ssd which is constantly giving me low space warnings, could that be the issue maybe?
              Originally posted by Alex15787
              I have a 2tb hdd, windows is just on that ssd on recomendation from my uncle
              Windows should never have been installed on such a pitifully small SSD, Windows 10 just keeps on evolving and getting bigger all the time so the very minimum SSD that you need for a boot SSD nowadays is 256GB.

              Looking at your thread I see two major issues and until you sort them you are fighting a losing battle.

              An appropriate quality and output PSU is 100% required + you either need to get yourself a bigger SSD or alternatively you can create a separate partition on the 2TB HDD just for Windows.

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              • Alex15787
                PCHF Member
                • Apr 2021
                • 37

                #22
                Originally posted by phillpower2
                Windows should never have been installed on such a pitifully small SSD, Windows 10 just keeps on evolving and getting bigger all the time so the very minimum SSD that you need for a boot SSD nowadays is 256GB.

                Looking at your thread I see two major issues and until you sort them you are fighting a losing battle.

                An appropriate quality and output PSU is 100% required + you either need to get yourself a bigger SSD or alternatively you can create a separate partition on the 2TB HDD just for Windows.
                It all worked fine until recently I took out tbe gpu to clean it now it isnt booting, there were no psu issues

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15209

                  #23
                  If you won`t accept the facts from us you are going to have to take the computer to a local tech who unlike here will charge you for telling you the exact same thing.

                  The AC460EM-00 PSU that is in that computer was not meant to power a GTX 1070 and the proof being that the GTX 1070 was not even around until three years after the XPS 8700 came about.

                  GPUs will sometimes work when there is a weak PSU present but all the while the computer is in use the hardware is being deprived of the clean and stable power that it needs and the GPU being the most power hungry tends to suffer first and the most.

                  Nvidea GTX 1070 PSU specs can be found here

                  Remove the add on video card from the MB, hook the screen up to the appropriate video port on the MB, reassemble, power up to see if you get a display.

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                  • Alex15787
                    PCHF Member
                    • Apr 2021
                    • 37

                    #24
                    Originally posted by phillpower2
                    If you won`t accept the facts from us you are going to have to take the computer to a local tech who unlike here will charge you for telling you the exact same thing.

                    The AC460EM-00 PSU that is in that computer was not meant to power a GTX 1070 and the proof being that the GTX 1070 was not even around until three years after the XPS 8700 came about.

                    GPUs will sometimes work when there is a weak PSU present but all the while the computer is in use the hardware is being deprived of the clean and stable power that it needs and the GPU being the most power hungry tends to suffer first and the most.

                    Nvidea GTX 1070 PSU specs can be found here

                    Remove the add on video card from the MB, hook the screen up to the appropriate video port on the MB, reassemble, power up to see if you get a display.
                    I havent connected it to a display yet, but so fat whenever Ive tried to boot with the gpu disconnected the same thing has happened

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15209

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Alex15787
                      I havent connected it to a display yet
                      Well that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, how on earth do you expect to be able to see any error messages that the motherboard might be displaying :unsure:

                      Putting aside any internal components for now;

                      For a computer to be able to boot up it needs to be connected to a working display and there must be a keyboard attached to the motherboard, no screen attached means you cannot see any BIOS or on screen messages and no keyboard attached means that the power on self test will fail.

                      Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed, thanks.

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                      • Alex15787
                        PCHF Member
                        • Apr 2021
                        • 37

                        #26
                        Sorry about that, Ive just connected it to my tv via the hdmi on my motherboard and there is no output whatsoever

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                        • Alex15787
                          PCHF Member
                          • Apr 2021
                          • 37

                          #27
                          Thats without the gpu plugged in

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15209

                            #28
                            So you have removed the GTX 1070 from the computer altogether, the card even if it is bad will be detected by the BIOS and the onboard video automatically disabled and that is why we need to be sure it has been properly removed.

                            Do you know how to set up a TV as computer monitor, it is not just a case of plugging the video cable in and off you go.

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                            • Alex15787
                              PCHF Member
                              • Apr 2021
                              • 37

                              #29
                              Oh no I dont, but yes the card is fully removed

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                              • Alex15787
                                PCHF Member
                                • Apr 2021
                                • 37

                                #30
                                I cant test it on my monitor as it doesnt have hdmi and the intergrated graphics doesnt have dvi

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