CPU Temp monitoring question

[UKFROG]

Hi everyone.

I need help… I am confused with different readings from monitoring my CPU temp.

I tried to find an answer in various forums but only got more confused, can someone explain in a simple way the difference in the following please ?

HWINFO64 gives me these readings:

(CPU Section) CPU [#0]: AMD Athlon X4 880k
[COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]CPU package (TSI) 73 degrees (very unstable readings jumping from anything between 50 to 90 degrees on some occasions)

(MB section) Asus A88XM-PLUS
[COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]CPU[COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)] 40 degrees (stable slow increase, degrease (36-37 in total idle mode)
[ATTACH type=“full”]7637[/ATTACH]

My [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]AMD AI suite III gives me the same as HWINFO on the MB reading (40 at the moment of writing this (Semi-idle state, ie. browser open))

[ATTACH type=“full”]7638[/ATTACH]

If I use [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]Speccy I get an other very high erratic reading between 60 to 95 degrees.

[ATTACH type=“full”]7639[/ATTACH]

What should I make of this and what is the correct temp for my CPU ?

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[phillpower2]

Hello UKFROG,

The two most reliable sources of such info are the BIOS when the computer is idle and any monitoring software that is specific to the MB when booted into Windows, ASUS AI Suite in this instance.

In addition to the above, Speccy offers a guide as to what the readings are whereas HWMonitor being a dedicated monitoring program is more accurate.

[UKFROG]

Hello UKFROG,

The two most reliable sources of such info are the BIOS when the computer is idle and any monitoring software that is specific to the MB when booted into Windows, ASUS AI Suite in this instance.

In addition to the above, Speccy offers a guide as to what the readings are whereas HWMonitor being a dedicated monitoring program is more accurate.

Hi Phil

I did correspond on HWINFO Forum and came to the same conclusions.

I appears that HW is the closest I get compared to the Asus suite and is consistent with the bios readings also.

I really just wanted second opinion to be sure I used the correct info, The Speccy ready was rather scary and made me wonder if my PCU cooler wasn’t failing, I just fitted a new one just in case. I guess the old one wasn’t that bad after all. :unsure:

Thank you for your response. Now I just need to setup my graphics correctly for best gaming performance in Red Dead. :giggle:
Any experience in that field ? My problem being the CPU not being a gaming CPU and it bottlenecks.

[phillpower2]

Hello UKFROG,

Your CPU is not too bad performance wise and if anything is going to cause a bottleneck it will be your RAM, your CPU needs 2133MHz for best performance whereas your Speccy pic shows that your RAM is only 1600MHz, CPU specs here

You are welcome btw

[phillpower2]

CPU is 1700MHz at idle and 4.2MHz under full load so your 1600MHz RAM is hanging on to the seat of your trousers

I don`t have anything to do with OCing other that to help folk pick up the pieces when things go pear shaped, no point in pushing your CPU any further than what it is capable of in any event as the slower RAM will end up causing blue or black screens on you.

Do you have a link to your RAM so we can take a look at the specs.

[UKFROG]

I had the first 8gb stick with the motherboard, it’s a standard Crucial DDR3 1600MHz, the second I got from Ebay/Chinese seller, respecting the specs of the original Crucial RAM that was installed.

Here is the DATA I got from my PC.
1st from HWinfo

[ATTACH type=“full”]7642[/ATTACH]

2nd from Speccy

[ATTACH type=“full”]7644[/ATTACH]

Unfortunately no link to venders page for more specs…

[phillpower2]

Go into your Speccy report not the log as is shown above, where you see the details for the original RAM copy/paste the Part number info for us, it will look something along the lines of Part Number: F4-3600C16-16GVKC

[UKFROG]

Is this what you are after ?

        Slot #1
      Type    DDR3
                Size    8192 MBytes
                Manufacturer    Crucial Technology
                Max Bandwidth    PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
                Part Number    CT102464BD160B.M16
                Serial Number    3762151183
                Week/year    45 / 16
                    Timing table
                            JEDEC #1
                                Frequency    381.0 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    5.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    5
                                RAS# Precharge    5
                                tRAS    14
                                tRC    19
                                Voltage    1.350 V
                            JEDEC #2
                                Frequency    457.1 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    6.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    6
                                RAS# Precharge    6
                                tRAS    16
                                tRC    22
                                Voltage    1.350 V
                            JEDEC #3
                                Frequency    533.3 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    7.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    7
                                RAS# Precharge    7
                                tRAS    19
                                tRC    26
                                Voltage    1.350 V
                            JEDEC #4
                                Frequency    609.5 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    8.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    8
                                RAS# Precharge    8
                                tRAS    22
                                tRC    30
                                Voltage    1.350 V
                            JEDEC #5
                                Frequency    685.7 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    9.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    9
                                RAS# Precharge    9
                                tRAS    24
                                tRC    33
                                Voltage    1.350 V
                            JEDEC #6
                                Frequency    761.9 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    10.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    10
                                RAS# Precharge    10
                                tRAS    27
                                tRC    37
                                Voltage    1.350 V
                            JEDEC #7
                                Frequency    800.0 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    11.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    11
                                RAS# Precharge    11
                                tRAS    28
                                tRC    39
                                Voltage    1.350 V


            Slot #2
                Type    DDR3
                Size    8192 MBytes
                Manufacturer    Unknown
                Max Bandwidth    PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
                Week/year    16 / 19
                    Timing table
                            JEDEC #1
                                Frequency    457.1 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    6.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    6
                                RAS# Precharge    6
                                tRAS    16
                                tRC    22
                                Voltage    1.500 V
                            JEDEC #2
                                Frequency    533.3 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    7.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    7
                                RAS# Precharge    7
                                tRAS    19
                                tRC    26
                                Voltage    1.500 V
                            JEDEC #3
                                Frequency    609.5 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    8.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    8
                                RAS# Precharge    8
                                tRAS    22
                                tRC    30
                                Voltage    1.500 V
                            JEDEC #4
                                Frequency    685.7 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    9.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    9
                                RAS# Precharge    9
                                tRAS    24
                                tRC    33
                                Voltage    1.500 V
                            JEDEC #5
                                Frequency    761.9 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    10.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    10
                                RAS# Precharge    10
                                tRAS    27
                                tRC    37
                                Voltage    1.500 V
                            JEDEC #6
                                Frequency    800.0 MHz
                                CAS# Latency    11.0
                                RAS# To CAS#    11
                                RAS# Precharge    11
                                tRAS    28
                                tRC    39
                                Voltage    1.500

Slot #2 has no part number, unsurprisingly…

[phillpower2]

That’s it (y)

Was looking to see if the RAM could be OCd but alas it can`t and 1600MHz is the max.

You may wish to check your voltages in the BIOS, your RAM should only be getting 1.35V as per the specs here but noticed before the ASUS screenshot in your OP shows the DRAM voltage as 1.650V so small wonder things were getting toasty in there, your second stick of RAM btw does not have matching spec with the most notable being that it is 1.5V, this may cause a problem if you correct the RAM voltage to 1.35V for the Crucial stick.

[UKFROG]

this may cause a problem if you correct the RAM voltage to 1.35V for the Crucial stick.

I’ve not had any memory issues so far @ 1.65v, what could go wrong if I do adjust the voltage ? Should I adjust to a happy medium, let’s say 1.45v ?

[phillpower2]

Your RAM should not be any higher that the voltage specified by Crucial.

Electricity creates heat which is the bane of all things hardware and if you combine heat with electricity even short term you will kill your hardware, why do you think that overclockers have liquid cooling.

[UKFROG]

Ok, but underclocking the slot #2 at 1.35v will cause issues won’t it ?

[phillpower2]

Your PC so your choice and I for my part have brought the voltage to your attention, consider though that 1.35V is the correct voltage for both the Crucial RAM and the motherboard whereas the Chinese imported RAM that has been added is the only one of the three that wants 1.5V.

[UKFROG]

So back to my question, would the “Chinese” RAM run correctly at 1.35v ?

[phillpower2]

Sorry but must have missed that question :unsure:

You made a statement in your reply #13 as I see it;

Ok, but underclocking the slot #2 at 1.35v will cause issues won’t it ?

As was said it is your PC so do as you see fit, leave things as they are or try 1.35V, we only advise here not give orders.

Just a fyi, you will not be underclocking anything by setting the RAM voltage to 1.35V, the Chinese RAM is the foreign body here and 1.35V is the correct voltage for your Crucial RAM and motherboard as was said but one post ago.

Being that your initial question has been answered this thread will now be marked as solved, it has already wandered too far off topic.