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  • backen
    PCHF Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 10

    #1

    Huge CPU performance drop after CPU overclock

    I overclocked my Ryzen 5 1600 and looking at benchmarks it looked like it was nice performance boost but once I tried to actually play a game I got unplayable framerates. 5-10fps in cyberpunk 2077 which at default settings was a pretty stable 60fps at the same settings. I thought it might be unstable, but when I reset everything to normal settings the performance was still equally bad, still got the 5-10fps in cyberpunk instead of the 60fps I had before even trying to OC, even desktop apps are much slower. Other games, CSGO and Witcher 3 LoL, are also much laggier than before, but AC4 runs fine since it seem to not be very CPU heavy. I also ran a GPU benchmark and it didn’t seem to be bottlenecked, at least not by much. The lag also occurs mostly as spikes, specifically for CSGO and LoL where FPS dips hard every few seconds

    I overclocked to to 3.7GHz at 1.3V, ran kind of hot at 86C while running cinebench but as far as I could tell it didn’t seem to be thermal throttling looking at Ryzen master. I also tried some slightly higher overclocking but it crashed after a while of benchmarking. Might be worth noting that I used Ryzen master at first, but switched to manual in BIOS later . I’ve also tried clearing CMOS to no avail. I’m also considering reinstalling windows entirely even though I can’t logically see how it might solve the issue.
    If something broken, what component could it be? Simply the CPU itself or maybe the motherboard or something else?

    What really confuses me is that the performance was alright before, but now it’s much worse even at the same default settings as before. If anyone could help identify and solve the issue I would greatly appreciate it.
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8977

    #2
    Hello

    When you started the over clocking did you take small steps?

    @Bruce @phillpower2

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    • phillpower2
      PCHF Administrator
      • Sep 2016
      • 15205

      #3
      FPS and OCing are not my thing so of no help with either I`m afraid, be happy to take a look at the hardware etc.
      Originally posted by backen
      I got unplayable framerates. 5-10fps in cyberpunk 2077 which at default settings was a pretty stable 60fps
      Don`t base anything on this particular game, there a complaints all over the place about the game being really buggy.

      [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]If the computer is a desktop can you post the brand and model name or number of the power supply (PSU).

      Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

      To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

      In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

      In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

      Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.[/COLOR]

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      • backen
        PCHF Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 10

        #4
        Originally posted by phillpower2
        FPS and OCing are not my thing so of no help with either I`m afraid, be happy to take a look at the hardware etc.

        Don`t base anything on this particular game, there a complaints all over the place about the game being really buggy.

        [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]If the computer is a desktop can you post the brand and model name or number of the power supply (PSU).

        Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

        To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

        In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

        In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

        Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.
        [/COLOR]
        [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]
        PSU: Corsair RM750x



        Really confused why it says GPU is missing, it even mentioned my GPU by name during benchmarking but got some error. GPU seems to be fully functioning with Heaven benchmark at least. As I mentioned the performance issue isn’t just in cyberpunk, both other games and even desktop apps are noticeably slower.

        Hope you can figure something out with this.[/color]

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        • backen
          PCHF Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 10

          #5
          Originally posted by veeg
          Hello

          When you started the over clocking did you take small steps?

          @Bruce @phillpower2
          Looking at some yt tutorials most seemed to start around 3.7GHz which is where I started but at just 3.8GHz it started crashing

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15205

            #6
            Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed, thanks.

            We can see a few issues going on in Speccy but will only mention the one for now;
            Originally posted by backen
            Really confused why it says GPU is missing, it even mentioned my GPU by name during benchmarking but got some error.
            Most common cause of this is drivers and guess what, you have installed Nvidea drivers for an AMD card :unsure:

            Btw, only mentioned CP being known to cause issues so you didn`t base any of your troubleshooting results on it, we try to make sure that we cover all bases so as not to waste peoples time

            Create a new folder on the desktop, name it AMD drivers.

            Download and save to the folder the Version 20.12.1 VGA drivers only from here (not the software & utility or third party options).

            Download DDU from here

            Create a new system restore point then run DDU and uninstall all present AMD/Nvidea drivers.

            Restart the computer in Safe Mode only (No Networking).

            Install the new GPU drivers that you saved to the folder on your desktop.

            Restart the computer, test then post back with an update for us.

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            • backen
              PCHF Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 10

              #7
              Originally posted by phillpower2
              Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed, thanks.

              We can see a few issues going on in Speccy but will only mention the one for now;

              Most common cause of this is drivers and guess what, you have installed Nvidea drivers for an AMD card :unsure:

              Btw, only mentioned CP being known to cause issues so you didn`t base any of your troubleshooting results on it, we try to make sure that we cover all bases so as not to waste peoples time

              Create a new folder on the desktop, name it AMD drivers.

              Download and save to the folder the Version 20.12.1 VGA drivers only from here (not the software & utility or third party options).

              Download DDU from here

              Create a new system restore point then run DDU and uninstall all present AMD/Nvidea drivers.

              Restart the computer in Safe Mode only (No Networking).

              Install the new GPU drivers that you saved to the folder on your desktop.

              Restart the computer, test then post back with an update for us.
              Not sure how I didn’t notice before but both cyberpunk and witcher is leaving gpu at literally 0% load, while LoL only uses about 10%, seems to be using integrated graphics then? I didn’t find any ingame setting to chose graphics processor and I can’t find a different way to force apps to use dedicated GPU

              I followed your instructions except when trying to install GPU drivers in safe mode it got Error 192 every time. I tried installing outside of safe mode but the issue remains the same (not sure if its at all equivalent to “No Networking” but I unplugged ethernet). Do I need to change some setting preventing installation in safe mode and retry this or should I try something else entirely?

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 10697

                #8
                I also have next to no experience with OC’ing and FPS issues.
                simply never needed to open those cans of worms.

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                • backen
                  PCHF Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 10

                  #9
                  I found a restore point labeled “Radeon Installer” that was generated before I had any issues. After restoring to that point the Witcher 3 started utilizing GPU, however, like other games it was never fully utilizing it and had similarly unstable framerates regardless of settings, which makes me think it’s getting bottlenecked, most likely by the CPU. (CB2077 still not using GPU)
                  Also here’s a speccy report in english:

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15205

                    #10
                    Your new Speccy report shows that there are numerous Nvidea drivers installed so no wonder that you are getting a 192 error and the GPU is not working properly

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                    • backen
                      PCHF Member
                      • Dec 2020
                      • 10

                      #11
                      I ended up reinstalling my OS entirely which has fixed the problem. Not quite sure what the issue was but at least I’m just glad I don’t have to replace hardware. My best guess is something went wrong with some software when trying to overclock back and fourth with both software and in bios considering the issues came right after trying to overclock. Definitely gonna make a backup and probably use bios before attempting to overclock again.
                      Anyways, thank you for the help

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15205

                        #12
                        You are welcome

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