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  • Attaboy
    PCHF Member
    • Nov 2020
    • 19

    #1

    High power usage (System lagging and monitors black out for a second)

    Hi,

    i m new here so first of all Hi ! I hope someone can help me with my issue.
    Basically i build my system last year mostly new parts but also some old ones like GPU and some HDDs.
    Everything was running rather smooth until like 2-3 days ago. I do a lot of Lightroom and Photoshop and never had issues there, gaming was also never an issue but somehow recently in Lightroom its very very laggy and sometimes in games like League of Legends the screen just freezes or lags out for a couple of seconds.
    Now i dont know how this might be happening. As i ve read through a few threads here with similar issues i m kinda guessing it might be the PSU but i have no idea how to properly analyze it so i m counting on some professional help here.
    Anything you need from me will be provided, just tell me what and how i get it and i ll try my best.
    For starters here is a speccy link:


    The PSU is a SilentiumPC Vero L2 600W (SPC165)

    You can see that i have a lot of USB devices, many of which do use the power supply of the PC like the Arturia minilab, my mic, headphones, external disc and so on. Might the 600W be too little? Or maybe the PSU is just crap and i should get a new one?

    Thanks in advance and i hope i can fix this with your help
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15205

    #2
    Hello Attaboy,
    Originally posted by Attaboy
    The PSU is a SilentiumPC Vero L2 600W (SPC165)
    Originally posted by Attaboy
    Or maybe the PSU is just crap and i should get a new one?
    There is one thing that is possibly worse than using a known poor quality brand of PSU and that is using one that is unheard of, for brands of PSU to trust and brands to avoid please refer to the links in my sig.

    With the amount of storage devices you have and the add on GPU I would suggest no less than a good quality brand. Gold efficiency rated 650W PSU.

    The voltages below suggest that your hardware is being over volted, see attached PSU tolerance table;

    Voltage
    CPU CORE: 0.720 V
    +5V: 5.184 V
    AVCC: 3.408 V
    3VCC: 3.408 V
    [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]+12V: 12.480 V
    CPU PLL2: 1.064 V
    PCH +1.0V: 1.056 V
    DRAM VPP: 2.560 V
    [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]DRAM: 1.344 V
    VCCIO: 0.960 V

    [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]Too high for a computer that is not under any load.

    [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]NB: Check the BIOS to make sure that XMP is enabled, your RAM is only running at 2400MHz when it should be at least 2666MHz as is required by your CPU.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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    • Attaboy
      PCHF Member
      • Nov 2020
      • 19

      #3
      Ok i thought that might be an issue. I looked through the BIOS and there were XMP Settings under OC Tweaking. I did not find it anywhere else. Basically is switched from AUTO to a profile that suggested 3200Mhz. I m updating my speccy here


      That brand is a polish one and to be honest i thought it might be fine not considering how important that actually is. I guess that was ignorant of me and i was trying to save money on the wrong part. I ll be looking for a better one and get it tomorrow right away.

      In the meantime, is the speccy looking any better towards the RAM atleast as i see the voltage has not changed a bit. Sorry for asking this but i m kinda lost in the report and am not sure where exactly that is.

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      • Attaboy
        PCHF Member
        • Nov 2020
        • 19

        #4
        OK so i looked through the options and i found this one
        [HEADING=2]Corsair TXM 850W (CP-9020130-EU)[/HEADING]
        Corsair seems to be a good brand from the list you provided. Its at an affordable price and can be delivered this saturday unlike many others which would make me wait 12 days or atleast till monday. There is a 750W version of this for a bit cheaper. Both are efficiency rated but i was thinking since maybe next year i might be getting a newer GPU something like the 2080 i might aswell get some more W.
        Is that a good choice?

        p.s. sorry for the extra post but i couldnt edit my last one

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15205

          #5
          Your RAM should only read 1.35V when it is being overclocked, it should only be 1.2V otherwise.

          The PSU is the most important component in a computer, a poor PSU is a ticking bomb.

          Go for the 850W PSU if you intend upgrading to a 2080.

          Which power supply do you need?

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          • Attaboy
            PCHF Member
            • Nov 2020
            • 19

            #6
            Awesome. Thank you for the speedlight replies and help. I will order it and install hopefully on saturday and update the thread if that has indeed fixed my issue. I have a feeling it will.

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15205

              #7
              Please restart your computer and check the temperatures/voltages in the BIOS, no screenshot is required just make a note of the temperatures, the DRAM voltage, the +3.3V, +5V and the +12V rails on the PSU and post them with your next reply.

              NB: BIOS voltage readings.
              The readings are not conclusive in the BIOS as the computer is under the least amount of load, if they are higher or lower than what they should be though it does most often suggests a PSU problem.

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              • Attaboy
                PCHF Member
                • Nov 2020
                • 19

                #8
                Did the restart and the numbers are as followed:
                CPU temp 45C
                MB temp 32C
                CPU voltage 1.024V
                DRAM voltage 1.352V
                12V 12.480V
                5V 5.184V
                3.3V 3.408V

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15205

                  #9
                  The +3.3 and +12V are borderline on maxed out even in the BIOS so definitely not good, try restoring the MBs default factory settings in the BIOS and then check the readings again, if they are still the same there could be two possible causes, the PSU which you know about, the other being faulty VRMs on the MB (voltage regulators) the PSU being substandard is the most likely cause though.

                  Try restoring the MBs default factory settings in the BIOS, they are sometimes listed as one of the following " factory defaults" “most stable” or on newer boards “optimized” please note that if you have both the “most stable” and the “optimized” options in the BIOS you should choose the most stable" option as in this instance the “optimized” settings are a form of overclocking that can cause instability.

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                  • Attaboy
                    PCHF Member
                    • Nov 2020
                    • 19

                    #10
                    The only thing that i found coming close was “restore default UEFI settings”. I could not find anything other like factory defaults. I did that and restarted once more into the BIOS to check the voltages but they were exactly the same. I do have an option to set exact numbers for voltages though. Does that help? Or maybe a BIOS update?

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                    • Attaboy
                      PCHF Member
                      • Nov 2020
                      • 19

                      #11
                      I just googled out of curiousity if there was maybe some bug with the MB Voltage settings in the bios and i indeed found something
                      On the ASRock Forum a user had stability problems with Win 10 and he says the default voltages on VCCIO 1.2V and VCCSA 1.250V resulted in instability while when he set them to 1.1V and 1.150V he had no issues whatsoever. So there is a know XMP bug for that board. Could that help maybe?

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15205

                        #12
                        From your MB user manual;

                        Load optimal default values for all the settings

                        Save changes and exit the SETUP UTILITY

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                        • Attaboy
                          PCHF Member
                          • Nov 2020
                          • 19

                          #13
                          Did it again. No change. The only thing that changed is that the DRAM is jumping between 1.344V and 1.352V. The rest is the same

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15205

                            #14
                            Not good.

                            Is that RAM voltage with or without XMP enabled and the RAM running at 2666MHz.

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                            • Attaboy
                              PCHF Member
                              • Nov 2020
                              • 19

                              #15
                              XMP seems to always be enabled. It is set to auto by default. I have not switched to any suggested profile. Here is a picture of what it looks like in default right now

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