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  • EXU1357
    PCHF Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 8

    #1

    Need advice as a first time PC builder

    Hello,

    I am building a pc for the first time and I could use advice from poeple who have more knowledge about PC’s.
    I want to run CAD and Gaming programs with optimal performance with these parts.
    The parts are:
    CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3100
    GPU AS Rock Radeon RX 550 2GB (Or an RX 570 8GB if this GPU wont take it)
    DDR4 Corsair 8GB with 3000mh (I can buy this x2)
    Motherboard AS Rock A320M PRO4 Motherboard

    I want to know if these parts can do it. If not what can I choose instead? I do prefer to use AMD parts.

    I have to yet choose a compatible PSU, Casing and SSD/HDD.
    And figure out how to built a PC and then making the PC ready for use (downloading Windows and other things I need to learn)

    Are these parts good enough?
    And what else do I need to watch out for?
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8977

    #2
    Hello

    Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.

    @Bruce

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    • Bruce
      PCHF Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 10697

      #3
      yeah, not much help here as I am the opposite and prefer non-AMD parts.

      but I can suggest you get the best possible parts you can afford to future proof yourself a bit.
      and lash out on the motherboard and CPU, they are the foundations that hold everything else together.
      the other stuff can be upgraded down the track fairly easily, things like more memory, bigger drives etc.

      consider a mobo with a NVMe slot for a faster solid state drive experience.

      when you say ‘optimal’ are you meaning best performance or default/average performance?
      if you mean average, your specs are good.
      if you mean best, you may want to consider 16GB of memory and a better GPU, whatever your budget can stretch to - and then get the one above that price point, because the gaming specs are moving faster than your budget, and within a couple of new games, whatever GPU you got will start to show its limitations.

      as to PSU, I’d not be looking at anything below 650w Gold+.
      and cases, unless you want to waste money on flashing lights and see-through panels, a case is a case.
      they sit on your desk or floor and gather dust - period. save your money and put it towards better components.
      all I look for is an easily accessible power button and front USB ports.

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      • EXU1357
        PCHF Member
        • Aug 2020
        • 8

        #4
        Originally posted by veeg
        Hello

        Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.

        @Bruce
        Thanks

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        • EXU1357
          PCHF Member
          • Aug 2020
          • 8

          #5
          Originally posted by Bruce
          yeah, not much help here as I am the opposite and prefer non-AMD parts.

          but I can suggest you get the best possible parts you can afford to future proof yourself a bit.
          and lash out on the motherboard and CPU, they are the foundations that hold everything else together.
          the other stuff can be upgraded down the track fairly easily, things like more memory, bigger drives etc.

          consider a mobo with a NVMe slot for a faster solid state drive experience.

          when you say ‘optimal’ are you meaning best performance or default/average performance?
          if you mean average, your specs are good.
          if you mean best, you may want to consider 16GB of memory and a better GPU, whatever your budget can stretch to - and then get the one above that price point, because the gaming specs are moving faster than your budget, and within a couple of new games, whatever GPU you got will start to show its limitations.

          as to PSU, I’d not be looking at anything below 650w Gold+.
          and cases, unless you want to waste money on flashing lights and see-through panels, a case is a case.
          they sit on your desk or floor and gather dust - period. save your money and put it towards better components.
          all I look for is an easily accessible power button and front USB ports.
          Yeah I also heard that having a build that is upgradable can be usefull. About the performance, I heard that for example with CAD programs it can get slow by bigger models I do want to run it by average/decent performance yes. I could get 2x8GB if DRAM if that helps. So thats why I’d like to be sure if it can run.

          I was thinking about 550-650W bronze/gold PSU. I heard corsair is good quality. I just want to be sure if its compatible because your motherboard-cpu-gpu has these pins which I don’t fully understand. I know a motherboard has a standart 24 pin and the cpu on the left corner has something like 8 pins.

          About the case I am not interested in the flashy light stuff. I just want to get a case that can support my parts in terms of size and all. for example attaching your motherboard to a non-plastic parts is important because of the heat I heard from someone. And I do want to have ports in front of my case because I have seen some don’t or have a few as you mentioned.

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 10697

            #6
            start with your motherboard - its size will determine your case dimensions.
            and its configuration will determine your PSU.

            the PSU will have to have the standard 24pin and the 4pin CPU connectors. then it’s a matter of what GPU you get and any ‘above-and-beyond’ power header on the mobo it may have.
            but any decent PSU, especially the modular cable ones, will have all the current and emerging-gen connectors.
            so you may pay more for the modular option but you’ll get all the cables and connection choices you’ll ever need/use.

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15205

              #7
              Just a heads up Bruce, the OP has ongoing threads regarding this on various forums one of which has ticked all boxes, see BC thread here

              It is unfair to hog helpers time while others have to wait

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              • EXU1357
                PCHF Member
                • Aug 2020
                • 8

                #8
                I also have se
                Originally posted by phillpower2
                Just a heads up Bruce, the OP has ongoing threads regarding this on various forums one of which has ticked all boxes, see BC thread here

                It is unfair to hog helpers time while others have to wait
                Why is it unfair? Can I not make use of several forums at the same time?

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15205

                  #9
                  Posting on multiple forums is frowned upon and by all forums as it is poor etiquette, as explained above it is unfair to take up helpers time on multiple forums, there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion on another forum once you have a parts list sorted but posting the same OP all over the place is not on and that is why not just PCHF but any other trustworthy forum will not allow the practice.

                  You should also keep in mind that we get people that post here that have post elsewhere and never reply to any of them which is even worse.

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                  • EXU1357
                    PCHF Member
                    • Aug 2020
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Originally posted by phillpower2
                    Posting on multiple forums is frowned upon and by all forums as it is poor etiquette, as explained above it is unfair to take up helpers time on multiple forums, there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion on another forum once you have a parts list sorted but posting the same OP all over the place is not on and that is why not just PCHF but any other trustworthy forum will not allow the practice.

                    You should also keep in mind that we get people that post here that have post elsewhere and never reply to any of them which is even wors
                    Why should I hold myself on 1 forum? Someone who asks more questions gets more answers. How is that unfair? I want to gather information about something and I ask multiple poeple about it. If you will not allow it then sure that is your choice.

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15205

                      #11
                      Because forums have rules + moderators and admin to apply the said rules, most forums offer free help to everyone, in a fair and unbiased way and all we ask in return is for threads to be kept up to date and that we all treat other with respect, my reply #9 was quite clear in that there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion.
                      Originally posted by phillpower2
                      there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion on another forum once you have a parts list sorted
                      Originally posted by phillpower2
                      but posting the same OP all over the place is not on and that is why not just PCHF but any other trustworthy forum will not allow the practice.

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                      • EXU1357
                        PCHF Member
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Originally posted by phillpower2
                        Because forums have rules + moderators and admin to apply the said rules, most forums offer free help to everyone, in a fair and unbiased way and all we ask in return is for threads to be kept up to date and that we all treat other with respect, my reply #9 was quite clear in that there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion.
                        I am replying to the threads I open. You are saying that it is and isn’t oke to be on multiple forums at the same time by saying it is a poor etiquette and also saying I can get a second opinion?

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                        • phillpower2
                          PCHF Administrator
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 15205

                          #13
                          EXU1357

                          You have been offered very good advice on more than one forum so feel free to go with whatever you feel is appropriate, this thread is now closed.

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