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  • Dr_Platelegs
    PCHF Member
    • May 2020
    • 5

    #1

    Upgraded GPU had Disappointing Results

    I recently upgraded from a 750ti to a RX 5700, I’ve seen little to no improvement in some games so now I’m looking for alternatives or faults on my end. Some games I can go from low settings to ultra and experience very little change in fps and going from 1920x1080 to 800x600 can yield up to 50% fps increase. I’ve tried resetting my PC. I haven’t looked into the BIOS.
    Other hardware:
    CPU = i7-4790
    MB = H81M-S2H
    RAM= 2x8gb DDR3 1600MHz
    PSU = 650W 80+ Gold
    1tb SSD (No dram cache)
    I’d really appreciate any help as it was a lot of money for me and little reward.
    Please feel free to ask for any more information.
  • Evan_Omo
    PCHF Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 1257

    #2
    Hi,

    Have you installed the latest driver’s for the AMD video card from AMD’s website? Are you overclocking any components? Are you running Windows 10 version 1909?

    When playing games, have you opened up Task Manager to monitor your CPU and GPU usage to make sure you have no background programs interfering with your system?

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    • Dr_Platelegs
      PCHF Member
      • May 2020
      • 5

      #3
      Thank you for the reply,

      I am up to date on drivers and windows.
      I couldn’t find any interfering programs while running a game, CPU and GPU usage wouldn’t max out either.

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      • Evan_Omo
        PCHF Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 1257

        #4
        Try performing a clean boot and see if the same behavior occurs.

        What GPU usage and CPU usage shows in Task Manager on average when playing a game? Does the usage especially on the GPU, go past 50%?

        Have you monitored your computers temperatures to ensure that you have no components that are overheating?

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        • Dr_Platelegs
          PCHF Member
          • May 2020
          • 5

          #5
          I used the Division 2 benchmark, here are the results.

          [ATTACH type=“full” width=“684px” alt=“benchmark_20200528_11h14m.png”]6475[/ATTACH]

          You can see that the CPU fluctuates a lot, and the GPU is quite steady. On another note, the game took a very long time to load from startup and the benchmark took a very long time to load as well. While slowly loading, the CPU was maxed out and disk was at about 5%. Also, after checking temperatures I don’t believe any components are overheating.

          I’m beginning to conclude that maybe my CPU is starting to show age, it has been in my system for 5 or 6 years now. However, I don’t want to make this conclusion, spend the money to buy a new one, and it not be the main issue / bottleneck.

          Thank you for all your help so far!

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          • Evan_Omo
            PCHF Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 1257

            #6
            I am seeing higher CPU usage than GPU usage so does this same behavior happen with every game you play? If so then I would say your CPU is the bottleneck here. I would update your motherboard’s BIOS to the latest version and see if that improves the performance of the system.

            Also set your computers power plan to high performance in the control panel as well and see if that helps.

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            • Dr_Platelegs
              PCHF Member
              • May 2020
              • 5

              #7
              The power management was already on high performance and the CPU / GPU had the same behaviour on other titles. I think the CPU is in need of upgrading. That being said, I’ll probably upgrade the motherboard and ram on top of the CPU as they are also dated (Gigabyte H81M-S2H).

              In terms of the upgrades I was considering:
              Ryzen 5 3600X
              2 x 8 GB DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black
              ASRock AMD B450M-HDV R4.0

              However, I am most unsure if this is a good motherboard, as I don’t know much about them. I’d like your opinion on these items and any better alternatives. Also, if I’m being stupid here, please just let me know, I can take it!

              Many thanks again.

              On a side note, is it normal to have 50-60% GPU usage when watching YouTube at 1080p?

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              • Evan_Omo
                PCHF Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 1257

                #8
                For the motherboard you should get this one, MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX.

                The AMD CPU is a great upgrade over your Intel chip.

                As for RAM you should get these sticks instead as they are designed for AMD hardware, G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 / B350 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX.

                Watching Youtube videos and having GPU usage that high is definitely not normal.

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                • Dr_Platelegs
                  PCHF Member
                  • May 2020
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Regarding the motherboard, that’s a bit more expensive than what I was aiming for.

                  Regarding the YouTube GPU usage, have any ideas on what the issue could be, because I haven’t got a clue. Disabling hardware acceleration gets rid of the usage completely but I fear that will have some other type of knock on effect.

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                  • Evan_Omo
                    PCHF Member
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1257

                    #10
                    Have you tried using a different Internet browser to see if that lowers the GPU usage? What browser are you using?

                    I found a cheaper B450 motherboard on ebay which is cheaper that will work with Ryzen 3000 series CPU’s out of the box, MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) USB-C Gen2 AMD Ryzen 3000 Motherboard.

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                    • Rustys
                      PCHF Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7862

                      #11
                      @Dr Platelegs do you still need assistance

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15205

                        #12
                        Thread closed due to lack of feedback from the OP.

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