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  • _Nick
    PCHF Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 26

    #1

    Completing the Build?

    Recently constructed this build as an idea for my next PC, but I just need some suggestions of compatibility/quality, etc. to maximise the quality of the build. It’s primarily designed for gaming and low noise, but it will be used a lot in the summer when the temperature is quite high so I opted for the liquid cooling. Any and all suggestions are welcome:

    Intel Core i5 7600K 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Boost) Quad Core CPU
    Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme S Liquid CPU Cooler (240mm)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Graphics Card
    Gigabyte Ultra-Durable H110M-S2H Motherboard
    8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz DDR4 Memory (1 x 8GB)
    2TB SATA3 6Gbps Hard Drive
    Roccat Juke Virtual Surround Sound 7.1 + USB Stereo Soundcard & Headset Adapter
    Aerocool Integrator 500W 80+ Power Supply
    300Mbps TP-Link WIFI Card
    Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit

    My initial considerations were based around whether to opt for 16GB 2133 MHz RAM or stick with 8GB at higher clock speed, and I thought I really wouldn’t need so much RAM so I kept it to 8GB. I was also torn between the 8GB RX 580 GPU and the 1060 6GB, but as a consequence of the Ethereum mining craze right now, the price of a 580 or 480 is just too high to be viable. This build pushes the absolute limit of my price range, I also wanted a SSD to boot from but it wasn’t essential so I left it out to save money. I also didn’t know if there was an issue with the 1060 with relation to the CPU since I’m going to overclock it to boost my FPS, and it’ll be mainly used on games like GTA V, Space Engineers, Dark Souls, CS:GO, etc. I’m sure the build is more than enough for 1080p gaming, but I’m always open to a second opinion. (y) (I also stuck a case fan on the build despite having a liquid cooling system in place, didn’t think it could hurt really…)
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8982

    #2
    Hello
    Yeah 8 gigs of ram is plenty for gaming. Are you just going to use your cpu boost,or actually going toover clock?
    I will have to tag a member or 2 about the 1060 and cpu,you surely do not want a bottle neck there. Other than that it looks good and never hurts to have an extra fan.

    @phillpower2

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    • _Nick
      PCHF Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 26

      #3
      Originally posted by vger
      Hello
      Yeah 8 gigs of ram is plenty for gaming. Are you just going to use your cpu boost,or actually going toover clock?
      I will have to tag a member or 2 about the 1060 and cpu,you surely do not want a bottle neck there. Other than that it looks good and never hurts to have an extra fan.

      @phillpower2
      The CPU itself boosts to 4.2 GHz but I built around liquid cooling with the intent to overclock even further because I wasn’t sure if I’d be fine at CPU boost alone. If the further overclocking isn’t necessary then I might switch to fans instead because I don’t want to risk leakage from the AIO since it’s not a corsair one. I just assumed liquid cools better than fans but if I can save some money and still preserve the parts for a long time without damaging them, I might consider fans and possibly jump to a 1070 if it isn’t bottlenecking.

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      • Bill1
        PCHF Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 108

        #4
        Veeg mentioned a bottleneck, your 2t SATA drive is going to be the bottleneck, IMO. An 850 EVO SSD will be much faster and at roughly $100 is a much better option for the O/S drive. Use the 2T SATA for storage.

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15209

          #5
          Hello folks

          Can you post your maximum budget for us Nick and we can take a look at an alternative parts list for you.

          Will add some comments to certain but not all items on your list - I don`t see a chassis to house it all btw.
          Originally posted by _Nick_
          Intel Core i5 7600K 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Boost) Quad Core CPU
          Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme S Liquid CPU Cooler (240mm)
          NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Graphics Card
          Gigabyte Ultra-Durable H110M-S2H Motherboard
          8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz DDR4 Memory (1 x 8GB)
          2TB SATA3 6Gbps Hard Drive
          Roccat Juke Virtual Surround Sound 7.1 + USB Stereo Soundcard & Headset Adapter
          Aerocool Integrator 500W 80+ Power Supply
          300Mbps TP-Link WIFI Card
          Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
          Great CPU, keep it in the build if you can.
          Not a fan of OCing which is what liquid cooling is mainly used for but if you must OC then pay the extra and go for one of the proven Corsair range.
          Your selected choice of MB will not allow for OCing, a Z170 or Z270 chipset board alongside the i5 7600k is what you are looking for, you also want a board with more than 2 DIMM slots, explained below as to why.
          Don`t rely on a single stick of RAM, if it goes bad your computer is out of action until you obtain any replacement, stick with either 2X4GB or 2X8GB sticks and a MB with at least 4 DIMMS to allow for any future upgrades.
          Agree with Bill regarding the SSD, a 128GB SSD (256GB would be better) for Windows and your favourite game/s would be best and a 1TB WD Black for data only storage.
          Aerocool PSUs are on the avoid list, check the links in my sig for as to why.

          Will wait on your budget and chassis info for now.

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          • _Nick
            PCHF Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 26

            #6
            Originally posted by Bill1
            Veeg mentioned a bottleneck, your 2t SATA drive is going to be the bottleneck, IMO. An 850 EVO SSD will be much faster and at roughly $100 is a much better option for the O/S drive. Use the 2T SATA for storage.
            I’d rather not, honestly. I’m over the idea of SSD for the OS, I just want a hard drive with some decent space cause rewriting is a problem with solid state. I’m more concerned for the build parts like the processor and GPU, I can sort out extra drives later since the case has a drive mount rack.

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            • _Nick
              PCHF Member
              • Jun 2017
              • 26

              #7
              Originally posted by phillpower2
              Hello folks

              Can you post your maximum budget for us Nick and we can take a look at an alternative parts list for you.

              Will add some comments to certain but not all items on your list - I don`t see a chassis to house it all btw.

              Great CPU, keep it in the build if you can.
              Not a fan of OCing which is what liquid cooling is mainly used for but if you must OC then pay the extra and go for one of the proven Corsair range.
              Your selected choice of MB will not allow for OCing, a Z170 or Z270 chipset board alongside the i5 7600k is what you are looking for, you also want a board with more than 2 DIMM slots, explained below as to why.
              Don`t rely on a single stick of RAM, if it goes bad your computer is out of action until you obtain any replacement, stick with either 2X4GB or 2X8GB sticks and a MB with at least 4 DIMMS to allow for any future upgrades.
              Agree with Bill regarding the SSD, a 128GB SSD (256GB would be better) for Windows and your favourite game/s would be best and a 1TB WD Black for data only storage.
              Aerocool PSUs are on the avoid list, check the links in my sig for as to why.

              Will wait on your budget and chassis info for now.
              Currently the max. cap is at £1000. Given the build, I was considering maybe just using the CPU boost and not OCing the parts but I’m just doing it as a safety buffer because I dont know how the build suits the high end games and I would be disappointed after spending all this money and still not hitting the targets. The chassis is a CiT prism. It’s got plenty of room for fans and such, so do you think using a cooler master or some sort of fan would be enough for the CPU? I’m not really in my element with these parts and how they perform. I thought 2 8gb 2133 MHz ram cards would be better too but if I’m getting a big fan then there might not be enough space.

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              • Bill1
                PCHF Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 108

                #8
                With all respect NIck, rewriting problems with SSDs is an old myth. But it’s your build.

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                • _Nick
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 26

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bill1
                  With all respect NIck, rewriting problems with SSDs is an old myth. But it’s your build.
                  Oh, right? Guess I’m just misinformed. Maybe I got it confused with defragging? Cause if I can use an SSD and rewriting doesn’t have a negative effect, why bother with regular disk drives anyways?

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                  • Bill1
                    PCHF Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 108

                    #10
                    That question depends on your storage needs. If you have a ton of pictures or music you might want to think about putting that stuff, which does not affect the operations of the machine, on a second drive.

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                    • veeg
                      PCHF Director
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 8982

                      #11
                      So you know, if you go with the SSD,never defrag a SDD.

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15209

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bill1
                        With all respect NIck, rewriting problems with SSDs is an old myth. But it’s your build.
                        Would agree on both points, Nick, if you read the article here (jump to In the end, there can be none) you will see that SSDs do not suffer rewriting problems.
                        Originally posted by _Nick_
                        The chassis is a CiT prism
                        A budget case that I would not choose but will use this and the i5 7600k and see what we can come up with.

                        We have your budget and so will head off and put a parts list together taking all points mentioned into consideration.

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                        • _Nick
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 26

                          #13
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          Would agree on both points, Nick, if you read the article here (jump to In the end, there can be none) you will see that SSDs do not suffer rewriting problems.

                          A budget case that I would not choose but will use this and the i5 7600k and see what we can come up with.

                          We have your budget and so will head off and put a parts list together taking all points mentioned into consideration.
                          Brilliant. Thanks so much for the input.

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                          • _Nick
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 26

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vger
                            So you know, if you go with the SSD,never defrag a SDD.
                            Must just be the memories getting boggled. I remember chewing a friend out for defragging his SSD which had photos and videos of his kids birthdays and stuff on it, but this certainly came as a surprise to me. I always imagined write limits would kick in when you start storing games on it but I was probably just naive when I first heard about SSDs. The milliseconds boot up time seemed too good to be true.

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                            • DOUGIE
                              PCHF Member
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 424

                              #15
                              Some very good advice given to you, Nick. I build quite a few gaming rigs.
                              My main concerns are the Mobo and the case. I wouldn’t even consider either.

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