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  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15209

    #16
    Couple of issues shown in Speccy but will stick with the below first;
    Originally posted by phillpower2
    Can you post the brand and model name or number of the PSU for us Aiden, you mentioned upgrading the CPU and GPU but no mention of upgrading the PSU which if also 12 years old should have been as any warranty will have long expired.
    Can you answer the above question for us, Speccy is showing some very high temps and these can be caused by a flaky or weak PSU.

    Veeg is correct in that the PSU voltages are out of wack as in the +12V rail reading is anomalous, the computer wouldn`t boot at all though if only putting out +5.056V, we need to see if we can get some more reliable readings, see below;

    Please take expanded screenshots and only use the method below to attach them.

    Download Speedfan from here and install it. Once it’s installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.

    If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.



    (this is a screenshot from a vista machine)

    Download then run HWMonitor and post a screenshot so that we have a comparison to the Speedfan results, details from here

    To capture and post a screenshot;

    Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… Click on the Upload a File tab…find the screenshot..select it and click on Open… enter any text you need to then click on Post Reply like you normally would.

    Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.

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    • Aiden167
      PCHF Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 47

      #17
      Done, is that ok? (didnt work for me to screenshot so I did it with my phone)

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      • veeg
        PCHF Director
        • Jul 2016
        • 8976

        #18
        This Scan still points to the old psu failing.

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        • phillpower2
          PCHF Administrator
          • Sep 2016
          • 15209

          #19
          Originally posted by vger
          This Scan still points to the old psu failing.
          Got to agree, if Aiden167 would be so kind as to provide the requested PSU information it may shed some light as to why the readings are so bad

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          • Aiden167
            PCHF Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 47

            #20
            I’m bad with computers, so I dont understand… you need to know which psu I have?

            [MEDIA=imgur]a/QtQlu[/MEDIA]

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            • veeg
              PCHF Director
              • Jul 2016
              • 8976

              #21
              Originally posted by Aiden167
              I’m bad with computers, so I dont understand… you need to know which psu I have?

              [MEDIA=imgur]a/QtQlu[/MEDIA]
              Yes as per what the info Phil has ask for..The info will be on the psu itself.

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15209

                #22
                Please note that there is one thing that is possibly worse than using a known poor quality brand of PSU and that is using one that is unheard of, for brands of PSU to trust see below;
                PSU guidance - 10 stripe - Johnny Lucky - PC Mech - PSU Review Database Toms PSU tier list 2.0

                The PSU that you have needs to have the wires cut off it before being tossed in the trash, it hasn’t even got the maximum power info on it for us to be able to check the claimed amps output on the +12V rail, btw, couldn’t find anything about RockPower PSUs on Google only a rebranded power adaptor for musical instruments

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                • Aiden167
                  PCHF Member
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 47

                  #23
                  so the PSU is the problem? I need to change it?

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15209

                    #24
                    All the signs point towards the PSU and being that there is no information available about the PSU I would never have recommended it`s purchase/use, the problem that you have atm is not knowing whether or not your hardware has been damaged by using the present PSU.

                    Please note that in circumstances such as this I always ask that before purchasing anything members have the present hardware tested or borrow a known good and adequately powered PSU to test on the system first, you never know you may find the claimed maximum power output somewhere on the supply when it is removed from the chassis, knowing this would give us an idea of whether a weak PSU could have possibly damaged your other hardware.

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                    • Aiden167
                      PCHF Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 47

                      #25
                      the pc is at least 12 years old, im not the one that bought it… so I dont know about this unknown PSU…
                      so what should I do now to fix this unknown problem? should I buy a new PSU and see if the problem is fixed?
                      besides, I dont see how the PSU can effect on the processor and motherboard heat..
                      hope it can be fixed…

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                      • veeg
                        PCHF Director
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 8976

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Aiden167
                        the pc is at least 12 years old, im not the one that bought it… so I dont know about this unknown PSU…
                        so what should I do now to fix this unknown problem? should I buy a new PSU and see if the problem is fixed?
                        besides, I dont see how the PSU can effect on the processor and motherboard heat..
                        hope it can be fixed…
                        Your psu powers the entire pc. So when it fails,it affects a lot of hardware that depends on it.

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                        • veeg
                          PCHF Director
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 8976

                          #27
                          Phil should be replying soon.

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15209

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Aiden167
                            the pc is at least 12 years old, im not the one that bought it… so I dont know about this unknown PSU…
                            so what should I do now to fix this unknown problem? should I buy a new PSU and see if the problem is fixed?
                            besides, I dont see how the PSU can effect on the processor and motherboard heat..
                            hope it can be fixed…
                            What I would suggest was post in my reply #24 and being honest - hopefully without alarming you get that PSU checked and changed before it pops and hoses all of your hardware or worse still it does the aforementioned + hurts somebody, attached video is the one that I use as an example to show the sort of equipment that is required to conclusively test a PSU.

                            What the equipment does is simulate a computer under load and so the PSU behaves as it would when it is powering your PC, multi-meters and the basic testing devices that you can purchase from some merchants only test the basic voltage output from the PSU rails and so cannot be relied on as 100% conclusive.

                            Originally posted by phillpower2
                            All the signs point towards the PSU and being that there is no information available about the PSU I would never have recommended it`s purchase/use, the problem that you have atm is not knowing whether or not your hardware has been damaged by using the present PSU.

                            Please note that in circumstances such as this I always ask that before purchasing anything members have the present hardware tested or borrow a known good and adequately powered PSU to test on the system first, you never know you may find the claimed maximum power output somewhere on the supply when it is removed from the chassis, knowing this would give us an idea of whether a weak PSU could have possibly damaged your other hardware.

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                            • Aiden167
                              PCHF Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 47

                              #29
                              ok, I understand now, I will try doing with that something, probably I will change the PSU.
                              I appreciate your help, thank you.
                              have a nice day.

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                              • phillpower2
                                PCHF Administrator
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 15209

                                #30
                                As said get your present PSU tested first and if there is any other information regarding the claimed wattage stamped on the PSU let us know.

                                A poor quality, weak or simply old PSU will not be able to produce the power that the hardware requires and what happens is that the PSU heats up as it struggles to cope with the demand, the voltage becomes unstable and you get power spikes that also produces more heat then eventually one or more components goes pop or gets fried.

                                You are welcome btw and likewise have yourself a good day (y)

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