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  • Rustys
    PCHF Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7862

    #31
    Originally posted by mistamichal
    I disconnected all my drives and then connected a spare HDD that I have. I installed windows, then installed MS Office and Adobe Photoshop - as they’re the main culprits.
    Here might be part of the problem.

    @phillpower2
    Once Windows has been clean installed you must then install first the MBs chipset drivers then the storage/SATA drivers and third the graphics drivers, the drivers can either come from a disk provided by the motherboard manufacturer ** or downloaded from their site and saved to a flash drive etc, this is a must and Windows should not be allowed to check for updates before it has been done as more often than not Windows installs the wrong drivers or in the incorrect order and this can cause all sorts of problems.

    The reason why this procedure is so important, the chipset is what enables the MB to be able to communicate with all the hardware + are the first drivers that Windows looks for on boot.

    ** For OEM computers/notebooks such as Acer, Dell, HP and Lenovo etc you must only download drivers from their support page, OEMs may sometimes redirect users to a third party site such as AMD or Nvidea to obtain the latest drivers for their GPUs, this tends to be for high end gaming notebooks and desktops though.

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    • mistamichal
      PCHF Member
      • Nov 2023
      • 16

      #32
      Originally posted by Rustys
      Here might be part of the problem.

      @phillpower2
      Once Windows has been clean installed you must then install first the MBs chipset drivers then the storage/SATA drivers and third the graphics drivers, the drivers can either come from a disk provided by the motherboard manufacturer ** or downloaded from their site and saved to a flash drive etc, this is a must and Windows should not be allowed to check for updates before it has been done as more often than not Windows installs the wrong drivers or in the incorrect order and this can cause all sorts of problems.

      The reason why this procedure is so important, the chipset is what enables the MB to be able to communicate with all the hardware + are the first drivers that Windows looks for on boot.

      ** For OEM computers/notebooks such as Acer, Dell, HP and Lenovo etc you must only download drivers from their support page, OEMs may sometimes redirect users to a third party site such as AMD or Nvidea to obtain the latest drivers for their GPUs, this tends to be for high end gaming notebooks and desktops though.
      The motherboard that I have - Gigabyte GA-B650 AORUS ELITE AX - actually automatically does that on the first run of windows. I installed the Crucial nvme drivers after that. I didn’t install the graphics driver though.

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15206

        #33
        Originally posted by mistamichal
        The motherboard that I have - Gigabyte GA-B650 AORUS ELITE AX - actually automatically does that on the first run of windows.
        Can I ask who on earth told you that

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        • mistamichal
          PCHF Member
          • Nov 2023
          • 16

          #34
          Originally posted by phillpower2
          Can I ask who on earth told you that
          No one told me. It actually happened. Current Gigabyte motherboards have a downloader in the BIOS that automatically runs when you install Windows.

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          • Bruce
            PCHF Moderator
            • Oct 2017
            • 10699

            #35
            we usually suggest reinstalling Windows with any other drive disconnected AND with the PC off the web.
            seems this might be even more prudent now with that Gigabyte feature turned on by default.

            so that would be another clutch at the straw - yes, means another reload on Windows.
            but for this test we don’t care too much about drivers, or the installation order.
            we just want a clean, offline install of Windows, 2 programs installed, and a test run of each program to check their load times. so just 3 things installed. nothing else to point the blame at then.

            if good, you continue loading one thing at a time, testing those two programs, and seeing if they go slow again.
            if they do, the last thing installed is probably the culprit.

            if bad right after just installing those 3 things, we are back to blaming hardware.

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            • mistamichal
              PCHF Member
              • Nov 2023
              • 16

              #36
              Thanks for all the help but, I’m just going to put up with it. Games have no issues, most of my other apps don’t have issues. It’s just Office, Photoshop and a few other Adobe apps - Premiere Pro, After Effects - (Although other Adobe apps - Acrobat, Audition - load instantly, so I don’t even want to try and understand what’s going on there).

              Thanks again everyone.

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              • Bruce
                PCHF Moderator
                • Oct 2017
                • 10699

                #37
                no worries, will close but of course, any further questions, please get in touch.
                sorry we didn’t come to a definite conclusion with this one!

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